Kiet Nguyen
to Doc Rio,
Subj: There were NO LDNN captured and held as POW !
Hi Doc,
Many thanks to you. Ken Conboy wrote this article is interested, but
it has some errors. Example:
1) The LDNN had training in Cam Ranh bay was in May 1970 for class # 4
then there after 4, 5 and 6. Of course you were there too. And I was
amongst of first group came to Cam Ranh to clean up and set up the
camp before class # 4 begun.
2) There
is no LDNN member have captured by Chinese navy. Indeed three KIA and
few guys had wounded.
Ken wrote:
When the Vietnam ceasefire went into effect in 1973 the SEALs returned
to LDNN Headquarters in Saigon. At the same time the CSS was
dissolved, with the Navy contingent given the option of transferring
to the LDNN.
In late December 1973 the government reiterated its territorial claim
to the Paracel Island chain off its coast and dispatched a small
garrison of militia to occupy the islands. By early January 1974 the
Chinese, who also claimed the islands, had sent a naval task force to
retake.the Paracels. On 17 January 30 LDNN SEALs were infiltrated on
to the western shores of one of the major islands to confront a
Chinese landing party. The Chinese had already departed; but two days
later, after SEALs landed on a nearby island, Chinese forces attacked
with gunboats and naval infantry. Two
SEALs members died and the rest were taken prisoner and later
repatriated.
https://www.sealtwo.org/LDNNvietnam.htm
LDNN CDR, Larry Bailey CAPT (SEAL) and Kiet Nuyen at
1st LDNN reunion Houston TX
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM NAVAL SPECIAL FORCES
In 1960 the South Vietnamese Navy proposed the creation of an
Underwater Demolitions Team to improve protection of ships, piers and
bridges. Later in the year a navy contingent was sent to Taiwan for
UDT training; the one officer and seven men who completed the course
became the cadre for a Lien Doi Nguoi Nhai (LDNN), or Frogman Unit,
formally established in July 1961. The LDNN, with a proposed strength
of 48 officers and men, was given the mission of salvage, obstacle
removal, pier protection and special amphibious operations.
Soon after the creation of the LDNN a second unit was formed: Biet
Hai,or 'Special Sea Force', paramilitary commandos under the
operational control of Diem's Presidential Liaison Office and given
responsibility for amphibious operations against North Vietnam. US
Navy SEAL (Sea, Air and Land) commando teams began deploying to South
Vietnam in February 1962 and initiated in March a six month course for
the first Biet Hai cadre in airborne, reconnaissance and guerrilla
warfare training. By October, 62 men had graduated from the firstcycle.
A planned second contingent was denied funding.
In early 1964 the LDNN, numbering only one officer and 41 men, began
special operations against VC seabome infiltration attempts. Six
Communist junks were destroyed by the LDNN at Ilo Ilo Island in
January during Operation 'Sea Dog'. During the following month the
LDNN began to be used against North Vietnamese targets as part of
Operation Plan 34A, a covert action program designed to pressure the
Ha Noi regime.
In February a team unsuccessfully attempted to sabotage a North
Vietnamese ferry on Cape Ron and Swatow patrol craft at Quang Khe.
Missions to destroy the Route I bridges below the 18th Parallel were
twice aborted. In March most of the LDNN was transferred to Da Nang
and colocated with the remaining Biet Hai commandos. During May North
Vietnam operations resumed by LDNN teams working with newly trained
Biet Hai boat crews. On 27 May they scored their first success with
the capture of a North Vietnamese junk. On 30 June a team landed on
the North Vietnamese coast near a reservoir pump house. Ile team was
discovered and a hand to hand fight ensued; two LDNN commandos lost
their lives and three 57mm recoiless rifles were abandoned, but 22
North Vietnamese were killed and the pump house was destroyed.
In July a second class of 60 LDNN candidates was selected and began
training in Nha Trang during September. Training lasted 16 weeks, and
included a 'Hell Week' in which students were required to paddle a
boat 115 miles, run 75 miles, carry a boat for 21 miles and swim 10
miles. During the training cycle team members salvaged a sunken
landing craft at Nha Trang and a downed aircraft in Binh Duong
Province. Thirty-three men completed the course in January 1965 and
were based at Vung Tau under the direct control of the Vietnamese
Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (Operations).
In 1965 the LDNN was given responsibility for amphibious special
operations in South Vietnam. Maritime operations against North Vietnam
were given exclusively to the Da Nang based Biet Haicommandos and Hai
Tuanboat crews, both incorporated into the new seaborne component of
the STD, the So Phong Ve Duyen Hai (Coastal Security Service or CSS).
The CSS, a joint services unit, was headed by an Army lieutenant
colonel until 1966, then by a Navy commander. CSS missions focused
almost entirely on short duration sabotage operations lasting one
night, and had a high success rate. The CSS relied heavily on special
operations teams temporarily seconded from other services. Teams on
loan from the Vietnamese Navy considered most effective, were
codenamed 'Vega'. Other teams came from the Vietnamese Marine Corps
('Romulus') and Army ('Nimbus'). The CSS also controlled 40 civilian
agents ('Cumulus') until the mid 1960s. Unofficialy, the term Biet Hai
was used for all CSS forces, regardless of original service
affiliation. CSS training was conducted at Da Nang under the auspices
of US Navy SEAL, US Marine, and Vietnamese advisors. Further support
was provided by the CSS's Da Nang based US counterpart, the Naval
Advisory Detachment, a component of MACVSOG.
By the mid 1960s US Navy SEAL teams were being rotated regularly
through South Vietnam on combat tours. Specialists in raids,
amphibious reconnaissance and neutralization operations against the VC
infrastructure, the SEALs worked closely with the LDNN and began
qualifying Vietnamese personnel in basic SEAL tactics. In November
1966 a small cadre of LDNN were brought to Subic Bay in the
Philippines for more intensive SEAL training.
In 1967 a third LDNN class numbering over 400 were selected for SEAL
training at Vung Tau. Only 27 students finished the one year course
and were kept as a separate Hai Kich ('Special Sea Unit,' the
Vietnamese term for SEAL) unit within the LDNN. Shortly after their
graduation the Communists launched the Tet Offensive most of the LDNN
SEALs were moved to Cam Ranh Bay, where a fourth LDNN class began
training during 1968. During the year the Vietnamese SEALs operated
closely with the US Navy SEALS. The LDNN SEAL Team maintained its
focus on operations within South Vietnam, although some missions did
extend into Cambodia. Some missions used parachute infiltration.
LDNN after Tet
In 1971, in accordance with increased operational responsibilities
under the Vietnamization program, the LDNN was expanded to the Lien
Doan Nguoi Nhai (LDNN), or Frogman Group, comprising a SEAL Team,
Underwater Demolitions Team, Explosive Ordnance Disposal Team and Boat
Support Team. Headquarters remained in Saigon. For the remainder of
1971 the SEALs operated in 12 18-man detachments on neutralization
operations and raids inside South Vietnam. SEAL launch sites included
Ho Anh, north of Da Nang, Hue and Tinh An.
During the 1972 Easter Offensive the SEALs were transferred to Hue to
conduct operations against NVA forces holding Quang Tri; after Quang
Tri was retaken some of the SEALs went to Quang Ngai to resume VC
neutralization operations. After US Navy SEAL advisors were withdrawn
in late 1972 the LDNN SEAL Team, now 200 strong, took over training
facilities at Cam Ranh Bay; training, however, was cut in half, with
only one fifth given airborne training. The SEALs had been augmented
by ten graduates out of 21 LDNN officer candidates sent to the US for
SEAL training in 1971.
When the Vietnam ceasefire went into effect in 1973 the SEALs returned
to LDNN Headquarters in Saigon. At the same time the CSS was
dissolved, with the Navy contingent given the option of transferring
to the LDNN.
In late December 1973 the government reiterated its territorial claim
to the Paracel Island chain off its coast and dispatched a small
garrison of militia to occupy the islands. By early January 1974 the
Chinese, who also claimed the islands, had sent a naval task force to
retake.the Paracels. On 17 January 30 LDNN SEALs were infiltrated on
to the western shores of one of the major islands to confront a
Chinese landing party. The Chinese had already departed; but two days
later, after SEALs landed on a nearby island, Chinese forces attacked
with gunboats and naval infantry. Two SEALs died and the rest were
taken prisoner and later repatriated.
During the final days of South Vietnam a 50 man SEAL detachment was
sent to Long An; the remainder were kept at LDNN Headquarters in
Saigon along with 200 new SEAL trainees. During the early evening of
29 April all SEAL dependents boarded LDNN UDT boats and left Saigon; a
few hours later the SEALs departed the capital, linked up with the UDT
boats, and were picked up by the US 7th Fleet in international waters.
By Ken Conboy Reference: http://ngothelinh.tripod.com/History.html
Vi?t Nam C?ng Hòa Muôn Nam Ever the Republic of Vietnam
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Lt. Col. Iceal E. Hambleton, USAF electronic warfare officer shot down behind
enemy lines. He’s the Man that Navy SEAL Tom Norris and Kiet Nguyen went
in to rescue:
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Navy Cross Citation
The President
of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Navy
Cross to
NGUYEN VAN KIET, PETTY OFFICER THIRD CLASS
NAVY OF THE REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM
Citation:
For
extraordinary heroism while serving with friendly forces
engaged in armed conflict against the North
Vietnamese and Viet
Cong communist aggressors in the Republic
of Vietnam. On 13 April 1972, Petty Officer Kiet
participated in an unprecedented recovery operation for
a downed United States aviator behind enemy lines in Quang
Tri Province, Republic of Vietnam. He courageously
volunteered to accompany a United
States SEAL Advisor Thomas
R. Norris (Medal Of Honor) in an extremely hazardous
attempt to reach the aviator, who was physically unable
to move toward friendly positions. Using a sampan
and traveling throughout the night, they silently made
their way deep into enemy territory, past numerous major
enemy positions, locating the pilot at dawn. Once, after
being spotted by a North Vietnamese patrol, he calmly
continued to keep the enemy confused as the small party
successfully evaded the patrol. Later, they were
suddenly taken under heavy machine gun fire. Thinking
first of the pilot, he quickly pulled the sampan to
safety behind a bank and camouflaged it while air
strikes were called on the enemy position. Due to Petty
Officer Kiet's coolness under extremely dangerous
conditions and his outstanding courage and
professionalism, an American aviator was recovered after
an eleven-day ordeal behind enemy lines. His
self-discipline, personal courage, and dynamic fighting
spirit were an inspiration to all; thereby reflecting
great credit upon himself and the Naval Service.
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Nguyen Van
Kiet
Nguyen Van
Kiet was a Petty Officer Third Class in the Republic
of Vietnam Navy and is one of only two South
Vietnamese, and the only South Vietnamese Navy member, to receive the Navy
Cross for actions during the Vietnam
WarA book was written about Nguyen's heroism by William
Charles Anderson and was later adapted in a movie named Bat*21
is a 1988 movie.
Navy
Cross citation
For
extraordinary heroism while serving with friendly forces engaged in armed
conflict against the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong communist aggressors in the
Republic
of
Vietnam
. On 13 April 1972, Petty Officer Kiet participated in an unprecedented
recovery operation for a downed
United States
aviator behind enemy lines in Quang
Tri Province,
Republic
of
Vietnam
. He courageously volunteered to accompany a
United States
SEAL Advisor in an extremely hazardous attempt to reach the aviator, who was
physically unable to move toward friendly positions. Using a sampan
and traveling throughout the night, they silently made their way deep into enemy
territory, past numerous major enemy positions, locating the pilot at dawn.
Once, after being spotted by a North Vietnamese patrol, he calmly continued to
keep the enemy confused as the small party successfully evaded the patrol.
Later, they were suddenly taken under heavy machinegun fire. Thinking first of
the pilot, he quickly pulled the sampan to safety behind a bank and camouflaged
it while air strikes were called on the enemy position. Due to Petty Officer
Kiet's coolness under extremely dangerous conditions and his outstanding courage
and professionalism, an American aviator was recovered after an eleven-day
ordeal behind enemy lines. His self-discipline, personal courage, and dynamic
fighting spirit were an inspiration to all; thereby reflecting great credit upon
himself and the Naval Service.
Also
see
Thomas
R. Norris
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Thomas
R. Norris, USN (Retired) (born 14
January 1944)
is a retired a U.S.
Navy SEAL awarded the Medal
of Honor for his ground rescue of two downed pilots in Quang Tri Province,
Vietnam on April
10-April 13,
1972. At the time
of the action, Lieutenant Norris was a SEAL Advisor with the Strategic Technical
Directorate Assistance Team.
Norris
was one of three SEALS to be awarded the Medal of Honor for actions during the Vietnam
War. [1]
Biography
Thomas
Norris was born on January
14, 1944 in Jacksonville,
Florida. He earned an Bachelor
of Science degree in Sociology with a specialty in criminology from the University
of Maryland. While at the
University
of
Maryland
, in 1965 and 1966, he was the Atlantic
Coast Conference ACC wrestling champion. [2]
He
joined the Navy with hopes of flying; however, he had problems with his visual
acuity and depth perception that disqualified him from becoming a pilot. He then
became a Navy SEAL. Norris struggled during BUD/S training, and the instructors
seriously discussed washing him out of the course.[3]
He graduated from BUD/S Class 45.
In
April 1972, Norris and a Navy SEAL team effected the rescue of two downed pilots
in enemy territory. For this action, he was awarded the Medal of Honor.
Six
months later, in October 1972, Norris sustained a near-fatal head wound in
action and was rescued by his fellow Navy SEAL, Michael
Thornton.[4]
As a result of the head injury, Norris was retired from the Navy. To recover
from this injury, he spent three years in the hospital and underwent many major
surgeries over a six year period.
Norris
received the Medal of Honor from President Gerald
R. Ford in a White
House ceremony on March
6, 1976.
In
1979, Norris decided to join the FBI
and requested a waiver for his disabilities. FBI director William
Webster responded, "If you can pass the same test as anybody else
applying for this organization, I will waiver your disabilities." In
September 1979, Norris passed the test and subsequently served as an FBI agent
for 20 years.
Tom
Norris lost an eye and part of his skull during the operation in which he was
rescued by Michael Thornton. Was an original member of the FBI's HRT as an
assault team leader.
Medal
of Honor citation
Lieutenant
Thomas R. Norris
United States Naval Reserve
For
conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action at the risk of his life
above and beyond the call of duty while serving as a SEAL Advisor with the
Strategic Technical Directorate Assistance Team, Headquarters, U.S.
Military Assistance Command, Vietnam. During the period 10 to 13 April
1972, Lieutenant Norris completed an unprecedented ground rescue of two
downed pilots deep within heavily controlled enemy territory in
Quang
Tri
Province
. Lieutenant Norris, on the night of 10 April, led a five-man patrol
through 2,000 meters of heavily controlled enemy territory, located one of
the downed pilots at daybreak, and returned to the Forward Operating Base
(FOB). On 11 April, after a devastating mortar
and rocket attack on the small FOB, Lieutenant Norris led a three man team
on two unsuccessful rescue attempts for the second pilot. On the afternoon
of the 12th, a Forward Air Controller located the pilot and notified
Lieutenant Norris. Dressed in fishermen disguises and using a sampan,
Lieutenant Norris and one Vietnamese traveled throughout that night and
found the injured pilot at dawn. Covering the pilot with bamboo and
vegetation, they began the return journey, successfully evading a North
Vietnamese patrol. Approaching the FOB, they came under heavy machine
gun fire. Lieutenant Norris called in an air
strike which provided suppression fire and a smoke
screen, allowing the rescue party to reach the FOB. By his outstanding
display of decisive leadership, undaunted courage, and selfless dedication
in the face of extreme danger, Lieutenant Norris enhanced the finest
traditions of the United States Naval Service.
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Honors and RecognitionsThe Naval Special
Warfare Group Two in Little Creek, Virginia is located in the Lt. Thomas R.
Norris Building.Norris' Medal of Honor actions have been re-told in numerous
books and in the feature film Bat*21,
which is named for the Air
Force code name for the original reconnaissance mission.
Retrieved
on 2006-07-03.
^
Couch, D (2001). The Warrior Elite: The forging of SEAL Class 228. ISBN
0-609-60710-3.
Referred
to in Couch's speech at graduation of BUD/S Class 228. Couch was in BUD/S Class
45 with Norris.
^
Norris' rescuer, Michael Thornton, received the Medal of Honor for his actions.
Thornton
was the first person in more than a century to receive that the Medal of Honor
for saving the life of another Medal of Honor recipient. Norris and Thornton
were able to witness each other's Medal of Honor ceremonies.
RESCUE of BAT 21 Bravo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Bat_21_Bravo
go here for the whole story of the rescue.
USMCCol.
Al Gray suggested a covert, land-based rescue operation.[26] and
Lt. Col. Andy Anderson, commander of the Joint Search and Rescue Command,
ordered a ground rescue. In Saigon, Navy SEAL Lt.
j.g. Thomas R. Norris,
one of just three SEAL officers and nine enlisted men[1] remaining
in Vietnam,[5]
had
just completed an assignment in theMekong Delta.
He was waiting for orders when the call came in for a commando operation to get
Hambleton out. Norris was immediately dispatched to lead an operation to rescue
Hambleton. He joined a five Vietnamese frog-men (Lien Doc Nguoi Nhia – LDNN)
Naval Advisory Detachment, Sea Commando team from Da Nang.
Lt Col Iceal E. Hambleton, USAF
electronic warfare officer shot down behind enemy lines in Vietnam. He’s
the man that Navy SEAL Tom Norris and Kiet Nguyen went in to rescue:
http://www.veterantributes.
org/TributeDetail.php?
recordID=2060
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