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Steve Elson – Former Special Agent with the U.S. Navy, DEA and FAA. Specialist in Counterterrorism, Intelligence, and Security. Twenty-two years military experience, primarily in Naval Special Warfare and nine years Federal service with the FAA and DEA. Retired Navy SEAL.
Fred Miller ST-2, was WIA 'nam and almost lost one leg and was medically retired. He rehabed himselft and enlisted in the U.S. Army and retired as a Lt. Col. He is a gunsmith and has his plant in Iowa but lives in Ill. Fred, Bob Thomas, and Doc Riojas were the TOP GUNs (NRA small arms instructors) in ST2 durning prior to 'nam war games. Fred is presently owner of http://midamericarecreation.com/, he is a professional gunsmith.
Ted Kassa and Son David M. Collins RIP
Erasmo "Doc" Riojas, Very Windy, look at my trousers blown up ! My legs aren't that fat. hahahahhahaha!
My Wife, she had too much to drink at the reunion.
Marcus Luttrell and Family
Erasmo Elias Riojas Al Moreno and Family
Lt. to Rt: Mike Beltran Jim Watson, ?, ?
Mike Ritland and Djena K9
Arthur M. Downes, Jr.
passed on June 3, 2012 at his home. He was born April 29, 1911 in Crestline, Ohio to Arthur and Mabel Downes.
He was captain of the wrestling team at Ohio State University where he received his Bachelors in Civil Engineering. He retired as President of The Whitacre Engineering Company in Canton.
He was a Lt. Commander in the U.S. Navy and Commanding Officer of UDT-17 in World War II.
Erasmo Riojas & John Davis
Top Lt-Rt: CHuck Detmer, John Dearmon, ??, Erasmo Riojas ; sitting: Mr & Mrs: Ray Tullas
Jim ? , Richard Marcinko, Erasmo Riojas
Lt-Rt; John Roat, Larry Bailey, Mr&Mrs Bill Goines, Jerry Todd, and ??
Lt-Rt: Dan Zamuda, Lou Gosser, Erasmo Riojas D. Hunter White
Lt-Rt: ??, Billy Burbank, Jack Lynch, Jery Todd
Marge Boesch, Rudy Boesch and Manny Perez
Erasmo Riojas, Richard "Hook" Tuure, Pat Martin
"Hook" Tuure holding a picture of He & Rio
? David Hyde?, ??, ??, Thomas Blais, ??, Mike Nause, AL "Big Al" Ashton
Richard Tuure, Fred McCarthy, Erasmo Riojas, Jerry Todd, Paul T. Schwartz
Gordon and Harold Birky
Tom Keith read his book: Seal Warrior:
Homer "Doc" Marshall ST1; ? ; ? ; Jose Taylor ST2
Hello Doc Riojas,
I just came across www.sealtwo.org your tribute to Jose Taylor and wanted to express my appreciation.
As a Naval Intelligence Liaison Officer (NILO) in I Corps 1969 ~ 70, I worked with Jose passing targeting information obtained from the Phoenix organization. Jose and his team conducted several "kill or capture" missions in the Quang Ngai/Chu Lai area based on that info.
Jose was a great guy.. he always had a place for me to stay at the NAD Da Nang compound and on my last evening in country, Jose and a group of SOG folks invaded the Da Nang O'Club to bid me farewell. They made quite an impression on the REMFs.
I last talked with Jose in 1971/2, after he had moved to Florida. However, he has constantly been in my memories. A truly unforgetable person.
Again, thanks for the memorial.
Ed McDaniel, Ph.D.
Edwardo Padgett fire fighter 1 training Carbondale, Pa..
Dennis S. Hryock
Sep 2007: Top Left Dean Nelson , RIP; Photo courtesy of Capt. Larry Bailey in N.C.
A.D. Clark and Friend
Roy Boehm,Susan, Jim Watson
July 2010 POST OFFICE Dedicated to Roy Boehm in FL
Larry Lyons, Jim Bracken, Doc Riojas, Dee Clark, ___Kirby A.Dee Clark, Richard "Doc" Martin
standing: Capt. Bateman, Bob Holmes
Bill "S.O.B." Daugherty's Photos of Cindy's Sea Burial at Fort Pierce FL Nov 2007
In a message dated 12/9/2007 ,
docrio writes: on this page: Bill, please send me names of the people in these photos. thank you.
Bill writes: Rio, here are the names:
TOP L to Right - Bill & Sammie Garnett standing and My son-in-law Barry (Firefighter) and my daughter Stacy (Detective) - Stacy & Barry taking down the photo of Cindy at the beach in Ft. Pierce after the memorial. -
My 3 children James, (Jim Fox Killed on Fulton Sky Hook Recovery in 1964 was his father.) Stacy, Sean and me shaking hands with SEAL 10 divers who took the ashes to sea.
The man who had Cindy's ashes name is Tony. What a great group of men. - James, myself with the flag, Stacy, Barry, Sean, and Lu A Dee Clarks min squeeze. - The boat strafing the Beach. (there were two from left & right flank of the beach.- Admiral Olson giving the swimmers the Ashes.- Admiral Olson on his knee presenting the flag. I can't remember the 1st lady's name but on the other side of me was Joe "D"'s.-The 4 swimmers from Seal 10 who did the honors. (If you notice 4 swimmers and 3 remains for a total of 7. Just like a squad.
This ceremony was thought out to the last detail. - A Dee Clark and Lu. Beautiful photo. - The swimmers in parking lot. - Barry & Stacy with Chaplin LCDR Daniel Link from Coronado.- The last one is Tony who carried out Cindy's Ashes. I was asking him to handle her gently. she had been through enough Pain. Jack Lynch when I ask him to help make this burial possible said he would work on it and felt it was time for the spouses to be recognized as they performed a job supporting the Teams, and their husbands that was just as important as what the men did and felt they were "warriors" as well.
There is another request for next year. Admiral Olson's Wife was there and remarked how deeply touched she was. There was well over 80 people in attendance. Congresswoman Thelma Drake from Virginia Beach introduced legislation authorizing Military Spouses a Monument in the Wash., D.C. area. Their is a "Military Spouse Legacy Association that started in June. Looks like the future will hold great things for our spouses.
Yippee!! Hope this helps Rio.
See you in Houston for the Christmas Party this weekend.
----- Original Message -----
From: email@example.com Bill Daugherty (S.O.B.= Sweet Ole Bill)
To: firstname.lastname@example.org Erasmo "Doc" Riojas
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007
Subject: Re: SEAL news today; Please
SEE ARTICLE on down below my
response.(Scary SEAL Stories Hurt Recruiting)
Back in the OLD NAVY when we keelhauled those who screwed up it was always about 85%. We started with 87 and graduated 13. 8 enlisted and 5 officers. (PS: I was honor enlisted man) Yippee!!! That and 3.00 will get you a lucky lager beer.
Everyone was a honor man in my humble opinion. It took all of us to get through. I went through 2 hell weeks as i was hurt but finished. that goes for Kratky as well. You know the German Kraut.
I would love to indoctrinate these young men. I bet I could get the attritation rate even lower. I know how to beat those big harry assed instructors. (Just Ignore them.) Hell, if you can only do 50 push ups and ask for 100 than give them what you can and finally that will move on and pick on someone else.
A trainee is supposed to be lower than whale shit. Could be. They did not muster us in a phone booth though.
I are: ADMIRAL"SOB." 'KING SHIT OF TURD ISLAND", U.S. NAVY MARK 5 MOD 0.
No muff to tough will dive for 5. By the way I loved the Master Diver E Mail. I knew a lot of them. I worked offshore for Taylor Diving & Salvage out of La., for years.
I worked with Willie Lump Lump and many more great people. I handled mixed gas and Sat diving, and was a tech writer for the MK 12 tethered and otherwise when it replaced the MK 5. Wish I still had my old helmet.
I said that: Bill Daugherty in Oklahoma and proud of it !
lt to rt: Sam Cichon, ?, ?, ?: Sam is the oldest man to graduate from UDT training on the East Coast. Note the second man got his pot worn out on top, you KNOW that he was holding his end of the IBS.
Scary SEAL Stories Hurt Recruiting
this article taken from: http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htatrit/articles/20070219.aspxFebruary 19, 2007: The U.S. Navy has found a way to lower the attrition rate (75 percent) of candidates for SEAL training. Having decided to expand the SEAL force, and not getting enough new candidates, the navy established a "prep school" for recruits wanting to become SEALs. Noting that the major cause of failure is the inability of the candidates to handle the heavy physical demands of the training, the navy decided to help wannabe SEALs cope.
The navy hired former SEALs, who are stationed around the country to show potential recruits how to prepare for the physical screening tests they have to pass to get into SEAL school, and what level of conditioning is required to complete the course. So far (about a year on), sixty percent more of the SEAL candidates complete their training (the failure rate goes from 75 to 60 percent). The navy is recruiting civilians who are athletic and want to be SEALs, and the addition of the physical conditioning coaches has made SEAL school less intimidating.
The former SEALs also play a role in abolishing a lot of the myths about SEAL training. Yes, it's tough, but there's a lot of urban legends out there making it seem impossibly tough. The navy knows it has lost a lot of potential SEALs because of all the wild stories. The former SEALs, serving with the recruiters, get potential SEAL recruits into the right physical, and mental, shape to get into, and pass, SEAL school.
Email from : S.O.B. To: Doc Riojas
RIO, YOU WET BACK,
TACO EATING MEXICAN. SEE WHAT YOU STARTED. Chuck
Newell SENT ME THIS , real his email below, AND I Answered HIS E MAIL AS WELL TO GIVE THat ARTICLE THE TRUTH !
Chuck's response to Bill: GONE ! GONE ! I erased it ! some of you guys got the wrong impression on their discussion about BUD/S training THEN and NOW. There was no animosity between them ! None what so ever, they are good Teamates ! Some of you old frogs need to chill it down and rent the three movies titled "SEAL BUD/S Class 234" and see what the different phases of what the young lions go through in the present time. E. Doc Riojas (NO class #) PS: i had my hell weeks in the Korean Police Action with live ammo. I have been authorized by BuMed to do the talk, since I did the walks. Ask Jesus when you meet him, he knows because he was there with us.
|HELLWEEK!is a link!
A teamate wrote me this: I remember Salenski (in charge), Waddell (hit the deck), Blais (up boat), Cook (squared away), Spiegel (squat jump), Hammond (tough), Clements (you need a haircut), Newell (push up), and Fraley (the runner). I hope I did not leave any instructors out. I'm sure I misspelled a some. They shaped class 30 into a pretty good class of frogmen (June-December 1963 Little Creek , Va).
I also got emails from Bill Brumuller, Roy Boehm, Bill Langley, Jerry Hammerle stating that, quote,
"We need more of this to remind guy's how we used to " rag " on each other and at the end of the day, there are plenty of hugs and kisses to go around. And most important to remember... we would all die for a Teammate."
Our guess is that some of us get over sensitive in our "twilight cruise" and tend to forget all the ribbing that we endured when we were on active duty in the teams. Good ole days!
Bill Brumuller & Wife
was a good time - sorry you couldn’t make it. The guys from BUD/S were great
and Nick is doing an excellent job. While it was good to see the candidates
from Texas A&M,
the most important thing was the BUD/S instructors were able to confirm that
my class was the HARDEST class EVER and that the East Coast has the BEST
U.S.Navy SEAL Training DVDs from Discovery Channel. . Buy!
Re-Inventing SEAL Training : BUD/S
Mc Queen to left with crew cut laughing
Layton Bassett's Platoon
SEAL "Young Lions" with Jim Watson
?, Capt. Bateman, Al Kibbe, Jim Bracken, ?
Larry Bailey, Capt.Bateman, Bob Holms, Al Kibbe, Jim Bracken
Lt-Rt: Demo Dick,Nash,Harry Humphries, Doc Riojas, Doc Martin & Nancy Richard Marcinko & Son
"Doc" Stone Nancy & Doc Martin
Eugene Fraley & Rinny "Swede" Tornblom
SEALs Class 29
Roy Boehm Jim Watson Fred & Linda Miller
Clay Grady Swede, Rio,Fly, Jack: in Germany
Hank Tong Harry Constance, Erasmo Riojas, Robert Peterson
Navy SEAL Team TWO
A Brief History Little Creek, Virginia serves as the home and
headquarters for Navy SEAL Team #2, which like Navy SEAL Team TWO is
lead by a Navy Commander. Eight platoons in total make up the military
force behind Navy SEAL Team TWO. As far as Deployment and Training is
concerned, Navy SEAL Team #2 focuses in Europe, wherein it sends
platoons to Germany where they serve on Amphibious Ships which are
deployed to fleets 2 and 6.
Richard "Hook" Tuure
Joe DiMartino Rudy,Tom Hawkins, Jim Hazelwood, Doc CLark & ?? Jesse Ventura & Doc Rio
Jocko ST-2 Monkey Lt-Rt: Jim Hazelwood, Susan Boehm Roy Boehm Don "Doc" Stone
Hoot Andrews and wife Joe Smith PN2 ST-2
Johnny Rabbitt,Bill Langley, McDonald, Jones
Tom McCutcheon's PHOTOS
Class 30 E.C. Little Creek VA.
Frank Toms has a get together of Vietnam era SEALS (see faces below) at his home on Thursday the day before the west coast reunion each year.
[i told you we are not suicical,]
Cummings was NEVER real from the day his momma (bleep!) him out!!!
picture courtesy of Archie Grayson ST-2 notoriety. He swears that is a picture of "Doc" Riojas.
Darryl Young, Navy SEAL;
author of TWO SEAL books "The Element of SUrprise" Navy SEALs in VIetnam andSEALs, UDT, FROGMEN: Men under Pressure
was that you who asked RD Russell (SEAL) if Cummings was a real U.S. Navy SEAL???
Someone told me once that there was no such thing as a dumb question, but you have proved to me there is!
hehehe If, you link to that low-life (bleep!) I'll put YOU on my wannabe page!!! hehehehee...
He is nothing more than a freakin asshloe suckin the $$$ from Teammate's
experiances!!! I told damn near everyone in that book, including Gary Abrhamson
on the front cover, NOT to have anything to do with that asshole...
Now, they're all learning one by one the hard way!
Your Warrior Brother, Darryl Young
signed: the DD
This Book is written by a 100% WannaBe SEAL.
Bill Farmer Jim Wilson Michael Howard
George Frena "skydiver" in Red Shirt Victor Licause & Mike Naus
Gene Clayton and Capt. Larry Bailey Former Navy SEALs Currie Crookston,
and Glenn Matamoros founded PetsDx.
Capt. (O-6) Bailey, Larry
See all of Larry's Old War Dogs posts in one place here.
A native of East Texas, where he graduated from Marshall High School and Stephen F. Austin State College, Larry Bailey was raised on a dairy farm, where he milked an estimated 300,000 Holsteins and Jerseys. Upon graduation from college, he went to Navy Officer Candidate School and was commissioned an ensign in 1962. After a less-than-stellar eight months as a destroyer sailor, he volunteered for Underwater Demolition Training at Little Creek, Virginia, and graduated therefrom in January 1964. After spending a year at UDT-22, he transferred to SEAL Team TWO, where he spent the next three years. Among his deployments at that command were combat tours to the Dominican Republic and Viet Nam.
Larry's 27-year Navy career saw him stationed in Panama, Bolivia, Scotland, the Philippines, and Viet Nam, in addition to various stateside postings, which included Little Creek, VA; Coronado, CA; and Ft. Bragg, NC. He commanded Naval Special Warfare Unit TWO in Machrihanish, Scotland, and Naval Special Warfare Center in Coronado. He retired from the US Special Operations Command in 1990.
Since retirement, Larry has worked as a consultant, speechwriter, fundraiser, and general gad-about. His most notable activities included presiding over Vietnam Vets for the Truth, which campaigned against John Kerry in 2004, and over Vets for the Truth, which unsuccessfully tried to deny John Murtha a 17th term in Congress.
Larry and his wife Judy are the parents of two adult children: Tucker and Hallie.
Contact Capt. Bailey through: docrio45 [at] gmail DOT com the webmaster
Linda and Jim "Patches" Watson
I need help names the rest of these Frogmen from East Coast, I named the ones i could recognize but I may be wrong?
Rear Admiral Ray Smith, USN (Ret.)
Widely regarded as one of the Navy's most inspirational leaders, Rear Admiral Smith has spoken on his leadership experiences to a wide range of audiences including corporate, political, military, and civic leaders. His Navy SEAL stories based on his personal experiences are extremely popular to the listening audience.
A Navy SEAL for 31 years, he achieved extraordinary success through focused, participatory leadership. During his four-year tenure as Commander of the 2300-men SEAL force, he raised personnel retention to a level three times the Navy average.
As a Navy Captain, he led the Navy SEALs in Operation Desert Storm, conducting over 200 operations of strategic significance while incurring no casualties. Earlier in his career, Admiral Smith directed Navy SEAL training, generally considered to be the most challenging military training in the world.
Admiral Smith has been recognized in Newsweek, Fortune, Reader's Digest, Discovery Channel, History Channel, and CBS This Morning. He published two highly successful Navy SEAL manuals on nutrition and fitness. He was awarded the California Distinguished Service Award while a member of the Governor's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports.
Admiral Smith was telling us , at the UDT SEAL Museum Muster XXIII , his humble beginnings in the U.S. Navy. He said he was an enlisted man before he was selected to attend the U.S. Naval Academy. He is supposed to send me his story, but i will not hold my breath. Doc Riojas
Richard "Mack" Machowicz as seen on TV Discovery Channel Duncan Smith.
Mack and Lourdes Tolentino-Riojas, at Little Jim's Bait Shack,Muster XXIII, Ft. Pierce FL
Mike Gold & Jim "patches" Watson
5 Officers:Lt. to Rt: Class 56: Mike Slattery, Jim Hoover, Jerry Retcher, Mike Cadden photo by: Spence Cadden
From: Dean <deanc56 [at] cox.net>
Interestingly enough, for a guy who is in his mid-30’s, and has never seen the O’Course before, he did a very admirable job of completing the entire course (tho he wasn’t a big fan of the slide for life). While we all know that it takes technique which you only learn after repetition, he ran it well and was barely out of breath – I do believe with a little practice, he’d be giving the young guys a run for their money.
Kinda like Team guys – world class athlete with a lot of pride J
Capt. Mike G. Slattery Ret.
"Bud" Thrift "Bud" Thrift
?? , Al Ashton, Pierre Birtz
Norminda Healy & Daughter
Lt.toRt:A.D. Clark, Frank Moncrief, ?John Muckle?, Capt. Symons, Jake Reinbolt, Erasmo Riojas, Jack Rowell, Bob Gormley, Ron "Big Ron" Rogers
Marcus Luttrell Jesse Ventura
Eric Prince Mazrc A. Lee KIA
Mike Boynton after blasting VC Bridge Lt toRt: Harry Constance, Curtis Ashton, Erasmo Riojas, Fred Keener
Anthony Obrian Eric Prince
Curt Gibby, Joe Hunter, Roger Smith, Dave Perry, Don Lindsey,
Frank Sayle, Erasmo Riojas, Dan Potts.
Class 19 EC
Larry Lyons and Melissa
Mike Gold, Daughter, Rudy Boesch Nov 2009
Robert E. Smith
Tom Vawter Doc Riojas and Swede Tornblom
Brumuller, Hershel Frog,
Jack Menendez and Pete Tonnies
Rudy, Tipton, Bob, and ??
Marc J. Thomas
Steve "Moose" Robinson
Steve Robinson in “St. Basil’s, Red Square, Moscow 1998”
Steve Robinson “Ulyanovsk, Russia 1998”
“St. Basil’s, Red Square, Moscow 1998” Steve Robinson
Navy SEALS Imposters Exposed by Ozarks Resident Steve "Moose" Robinson | May 21, 2014 -| By Michele Skalicky
Steve Robinson knows what it’s like to be a Navy SEAL. The Forsyth resident served in the special unit just as the Vietnam War was ending. The last SEAL platoon to be deployed to Vietnam left the continental U.S. when Robinson was finishing his final training. But he served with SEAL Team One in three deployable platoons--each time a deployment was scheduled it was curtailed.
He found himself a spot on the In-Shore, Undersea Warfare Group One where he taught SEAL security tactics and communication to reservists. When he had the opportunity to volunteer for the Marine Mammal Program, he jumped at the chance. The program, run by members of the Explosive Ordnance Disposal, or bomb squad, trained sea lions in the retrieval of missiles that had missed a target and fallen to the ocean floor. They also trained dolphins to detect swimmers in the water who might be planning to blow up a dock facility and support facilities for the Brown Water Navy.
"And to mark their location by bumping into them and thus releasing a little buoy that would pop to the surface with a flashing light and a pinger and that sort of thing, and I volunteered to be swimmer target for the dolphins," he said.
That involved a 600 pound dolphin hitting him the small of the back at about ten miles per hour for at least an hour. He swam nearly a dozen times as target and ended up in the hospital in a body cast—no longer able to perform the duties of a SEAL.
He was discharged from the Navy in November 1978 after nearly nine years on active duty.
Once Robinson retired from a career as blacksmith at Silver Dollar City and as owner of Moose Creek Forge Shop in Forsyth, he found a new calling.
He and his wife were at a Highland Games in Kentucky where Robinson was demonstrating his blacksmithing skills when a man walked by wearing a kilt and military shirt with a Navy SEAL trident emblem on it.
"And I curtailed what I was doing quickly, went over, informed him that I was a Navy SEAL, and I sure would like to meet a teammate--I hadn't talked with another SEAL for many many years.
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From: darren a greenwell
From:Erasmo "Doc" Riojas
I was there in CamRanh when they had the dolphins.
EOD are the guys that had that program there.
Doc... our Teammate, Rick Hetzell, was a sea lion handler with the program. I've remembered his involvement since he and I were involved in other stuff together. The years have stolen the names of virtually all other men and animals involved while I was there. I will say that I learned the hard way that these animals were not "Flipper" the friendly dolphin.
They were the aquatic version of K9 working dogs and had a similar mental outlook on the world. They loved their handlers, but their mental attitude toward almost everyone else was guarded and mostly hostile. One of the guys who was new to the program began working with a dolphin that raked one of his arms with its upper jaw... effectively tearing a nasty shred that immediately developed a dangerous infection. He had to leave the program... at least he was out of the program until he completed medical process to treat the injury with antibiotics and completely heal the torn flesh.
Same with the sea lions; they could be
very aggressive if they took a notion to be "tempermental".
Marine Mammal Programme Inbox x Darren A Greenwell from London great
Steve Robinson in “Ulyanovsk, Russia 1998”
I don’t have a problem with anyone knowing I went to
“Ulyanovsk, Russia 1998” or “St. Basil’s, Red Square, Moscow 1998”. I dreamed about it when I was a kid
(dunno why), dreamed about it when I was in college learning the Russian language (which seemed only appropriate since I was majoring in Slavic Studies), and when I was offered the chance to go in the late 90’s, I jumped at it. I despise the Communist form of government, but the common people of Russia are just like common people everywhere when the government isn’t meddling in their business… doing their damnedest to make ends meet, keep food on the table, stay warm in the winter, and live to a ripe old age with grandkids underfoot.
Steve "Moose" Robinson
Per-Erik "Swede" Tornblom
Per-Erik "Swede" Tornblom
Per-Erik "Swede" Tornblom
Gordon Clisham and X-Ray Platoon ST-1 'Nam
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As indicated on the photo, he is the one holding the bananas. No need to give me credit for the pictures, I am just happy you can use them. Looks as though you have done so much work on your site, I'll be happy to let the other Team Members know about it and check it out.
My husband and I keep in close touch with these families. We have a farm in Parkton, Maryland and during the past ten years have had about six reunions at the house (they last about three or four days, with people at the hotel nearby and sleeping in tents or throughout our house) Each year, we attract a few new people.
Having raised their children now, paid for college, and now have a
little extra time and money, more are interested in getting together on
a regular basis. The women have become very close too and all of the
guys walk away from these weekends with a renewed sense of camaraderie.
We're very happy to have them at our home for the weekend.
X-Ray Platoon (Gordon said this was called the bad luck platoon because there were so many losses. Jim Ritter (KIA) took the picture. From left to right top row - Rick Hetzell, Irving Brown, Harold Birkey (KIA), Doc Caplenor, Frank Bowmar (KIA), Clint Majors, Mike Collins (KIA), Lou Decrose. Middle - Alan Vader. Bottom Row left to right - Mike Trigg, Dave Shadnaw, Gordon Clisham, Awe(the scout).
Hi Doc Rio-
Thanks for your reply - I am going to send these pictures in
separate e-mails because they are on different discs and I want to make
sure I'm doing this correctly.
WEBMASTER NOTE: Cindi and all; sorry, I renamed the photos and so I now am unable to label the pictures with the guys/gals names. I am sure somebody will email me and give me a hand. Erasmo Doc Riojas docrio45 [at] gmail.com
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