by: Erasmo "Doc" Riojas Email: docrio
David PaAaina Navy SEAL Martial Arts Competitor
Dave, Lil Rio, Rio Grande, Kimo Aipia and baby Manu Aipia mother, Luana Kalili
Aipia
Lourdes Tolentino and Luana Kalili Aipia
PaAaina & Lil Rio
Mike Day was shot 27 times and lived !
X
RUDY DAVIS, U.S. Navy Frogman/ SEAL
From: Rudy Davis
12 Mar 2016
to: Doc Rioja
Doc -
Every thing was good about Apollo 15, until the last shot. It was an ariel
view of Apollo 14 (Jan. 1971) which I was also on - with the 2 rafts Toad
Stool and Lilly Pad. - Admiral Rohrbach (then LtJG) was in the raft as Decon.
Swimmer and helped the Astro out. Mike Bennett, Doc Holmes and Fred Schmidt
were lifeguards in the water. I recovered the "Apex Cover" which had
be jettisoned, approx. 300 yards to the south.
LtJG Schmidt was then chosen to be in charge of Apollo 15 (Aug. 1971) which
occured 6 months later; He chose Jakuboski and myself Davis as his 1st
Recovery Team. It was much more fun because NASA had decided that there was no
Moon Viruses and we could shake their hands and bullshit with the Astronauts.
Harry
Butler aka: Flight 014 PHOTOS
Harry Butler
Doc,
I made a couple of boo boo's on the UTB 7101 names, it's been 45 years. One was Gerry Nolte, I was thinking of the
Midnight Cowboy. The other was Mike M. the correct spelling is on pg. 3 of the handout.
014Photos by Flight014
(your name goes here) or however you want to title the pictures.
Doc,
Why I use Flight014 which was my old Gruuman/Gulfstream Flight Test #.
Thanks For The Memories!!!
Amigos, I think I've got this request figured out!!!
Harry Butler aka: Flight 014
I also need help with the description of them because i don't think i got them right. thanks, RIO
From:Flight014
19Mar2016
to: Doc Rio
Doc,
I had sent you a few pics that I had on slides. One was our trainingg. class pic, on
the back of the pic I had everyone's signature except Bill McNally's + mine.
UDTB 7101 - Class 51 East Pic Front + Rear!!!
This may be of interest.
FITH (Fate Is The Hunter),
Harry Butler
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Plymouth Rock.jpg
Reply to Flight014 <flight014@unseen.is>
1952 Hell Week: Little Creek VA. Amphib
Base UDT Replacement Training courtesy
of: Jake Hays mailed-by: pilotonline.com signed-by:
pilotonline.com date: Tue, Jan 19, 016 subject: Re: your article on Hell Week
UDT training at Little Creek Amphib base 1952
Jake Hays wrote: Feel free to do so Mr. Riojas! I'm a
big fan of your page and have visited it many times over the years! -All the
best - Jake
Somebody
out there in Frogville; write me and tell me which class you think this
is. Thank you very much: Email
me HERE !
David PaAaina Navy SEAL Martial Arts Competitor
Dave,
Lil Rio, Rio Grande, Kimo Aipia and baby Manu Aipia mother, Luana Kalili
Aipia
Lourdes
Tolentino and Luana Kalili Aipia
Genesis of Navy SEALs The Concept Focus On: Special Operations Teams
—The Early Years By: Charles W. Sasser Date: September
16 , 2011 Special Contributor Symbol Today By: Charles W. Sasser Date:
September 23 , 2011 Special Contributor SEALs—Today By: Charles W. Sasser Date: September
23 , 2011 Special Contributor
A
SEAL Sniper Instructor's Review of The Movie Lone
Survivor
From:Nick Nickelson From: Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 M.F. A SEAL Sniper Instructor’s Review of The
Movie Lone Survivor The movie didn’t disappoint. Few movies in
Hollywood do right by the military men (and women) they represent, but
this isn’t one of those. The scene where they make initial Taliban
contact on the mountain slope is intense, and my back, and head hurt
just watching the falling scenes. My only criticism? I thought it was a
mistake to put Marcus in a supporting role in the film, it felt awkward
to me to see him on screen as one of the SEALs knowing he was the hero
of the story. This may be my own personal bias, and because I
know, and trained Marcus when he went through the SEAL sniper course.
Ben Foster get’s a 5.0 eval from me on his portrayal of Matt “Axe”
Axelson. I know Axe as one of my personal student mentor candidates from
sniper school, a great guy, and the consummate operator. Ben nailed it,
I felt like I was watching Axe all over again. One of my favorite parts
of the book is the complex cultural dynamic that existed (ultimately
saved Luttrell’s life) between the local tribe elders, and the Taliban. If you haven’t done your research on Pashtunwali,
the un-written code of ethics that govern the Pashtun, it’s worth
looking into. Berg, and his actors did a great job honoring the men that
gave their lives on that lonely Afghan mountainside. Go see it, and let
me know what you think.
Marcus Luttrell "Lone Survivor"
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J. Tolison
Eiehard J. Solano
Ron "Lill"
Rogers
Jim O'Neill and Brad Hamilton Darren Greenwells's collection of SEALs autographs in London
England
SEALs Team FOUR Grenada war
Four SEALs lost in Grenada Kenneth Butler Kevin Lundberg Stephen Morris Robert Schamberger Operation Urgent Fury was a 1983 United States–led
invasion of Grenada, a Caribbean island nation with a population of about 91,000
located 160 kilometres (99 mi) north of Venezuela, that resulted in a U.S.
victory within a matter of weeks. Triggered by the house arrest and murder of
the leader of the coup which had brought a revolutionary government to power for
the preceding four years, the invasion resulted in a restoration of the
pre-revolutionary regime.
Email: 27Aug2013:
Manny
Perez Email on the HM's in EAST Coast SEALs
Subject: Re: Erasmo "Doc Rio" Riojas SEAL Web Page has changed HMI Issac Suazo 1966 I can't find it so I'll start again. Harold Sartin was in ST2 for a short time in the mid 60's but was afraid to jump out of air planes. When he went to Key West for his SCUBA training he finagled an instructor billet there and never went back to the team. He was one of my instructors at Key West.
webmaster:
Thank you very much Manny. Doc Riojas
Hal Kuykendall
navy-seal-marcus-luttrell-honors-fallen-brothers
Rescue Copter shot down
in Afghan Attack and Killed 30 Servicemen some were Navy SEALs
Navy SEALs awarded
Navy Crosses 31 US troops, mostly elite Navy SEALs, killed in Afghanistan
Dave Barber and Rick Springs, BUD/S
class 75
The Veteran's Day reunion of BUD/S Class 75 at Ft. Pierce,
Florida was an outstanding succes Rick Springs remembers: This past year, TIME magazine made "The Protester" as “THE TIME MAN OF THE YEAR.” I have never been a big fan of TIME, but still I read it. It is important to get our news information from various sources so our conclusions are based from mixed viewpoints. We all need to be open minded enough to at least consider what the other view is. Dave Barber and Rick Springs, BUD/S
class 75
Lowell Gosser's 2011
Lowell Gosser's 2011 Muster Pictures From:
Bob Nissley; SEAPOACHER@aol.com RUDDY
- His
wife MARY ELISABETH and his little dog was with him backed up by a
caregiver. His wife said he wanted to be cremated with no services and she
will retain his ashes until she passes then she will be cremated and both
interned at He
lived a full life and I truly believe it ended his way. His health had
deteriorated this past year and he was suffering badly with a failing heart
and lungs. I followed him for almost a year at NAD DA NANG and he was not
just a true comrade but a compulsive "HUNTER" always on the prowl
for the bad guy. Captain
would you please put the word out to those on the West Coast who served/knew
"JOSE." Best
to all BOB NISSLEY..............
----- Original Messages -----
Lloyd
Favor Taylor R.I.P. originally from
Arkansas A.K.A. Jose Taylor Thanks, Kiet for announcing the so sad
news. It is a big loss for CSS/NAD. Norm. Any of us has any details
about the funeral please pass them on. Hello all: His sea duties were Commanding
Officer of the Stallion. He was the receipient of two Purple Hearts for
wounds received in Vietnam. He also received two Silver Stars, Bronze
Star,and numerous medals. He was a generous, loving, and brave man. We will
all miss him.
----- Original Message ----- Norm Kiet email Kinh VTY
Loc Tran <locbatran@yahoo.com> Anh Y quy' me^'n, Vo+'i nie^`m
thu+o+ng tie^'c vo^ cu`ng, em xin ba'o tin cho anh Vo~ Ta^'n Y bie^'t la` Ha?i
Qua^n Trung Ta' Jose Taylor (Joe) dda~ tu+` gia? co~i ddo+`i va`o
nga`y Thu+' Sa'u nga`y 14 tha'ng 10, na(m 2005 lu'c 10:20 PM ta.i
Crestview, Florida. Xin nho+` anh Y tho^ng ba'o giu`m cho ca'c Chie^'n
Hu+~u NKT dda~ tu+`ng sa't ca'nh chie^'n dda^'u vo+'i Co^' Trung Ta'
Taylor. Xin anh lie^n la.c vo+'i em o+? ddie^.n thoa.i 21-392-8234 dde^? em
cho bie^'t the^m chi tie^'t. Xin ca'm o+n anh Y Tra^`n Ba' Lo^.c UNABLE TO
TRANSLATE THE ABOVE. Thanks, Kiet for announcing the so
sad news.
Rudy and I do enjoy reading
your messages. Thanks so much for keeping us on your list. Really sad about
Jose, know he's been sick for quite awhile. I know we have a slide of him
from a Med trip back in '55. We're going to look for it and I'll have a
picture made to send to you. It's back when he was enlisted and in uniform,
I can picture it but just have to find it. Hope all is well with you and
LouLou.
----- Original Message ----- Jose's real name is Lloyd
Favor Taylor and he was originally from Arkansas. Truly sorry he died, will be
missed. Bruhmiller says his wife is having trouble with the VA trying
to get his benefits.
Dear Teamates,
From: firstseal@aol.com
--------Original Message
-----
----- Original Message ----- I met Jose this way thru
Corney. He was a good guy and I loved hear his stories. I have thought of
him before when going back thru my memory lane. He will be missed and
by all the alkaloids from everyone who served with him have
expressed in their E Mails I know his wife is surely proud to have
been his mate here on earth.
Bill Daugherty
; The Below Photographs are property of
Mary Elizabeth Taylor (Jose's wife) and may not be used without her
permission.
Email Doc Rio and he will contact her for you.
Doc, IF Jose Taylor was the Ops
boss at NAD DaNang, then he'd coordinate with the Vietnamese CSS. CSS
ran PTF operations up North; MST-1 did the maintenance on the PTF boats and
conducted training in their maintenance. Robert Stoner MCPO include these photos :
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Against Phony SEALs Reveals New Concern for the Public at Large
Don Shipley
John Gulick has had two jobs in his entire life. The first, being a Navy
SEAL, where he was awarded medals for valor. The second job has been as
an attorney for the past 30 years, which involves its own unique version
of combat. Each job requires energy, competence, courage, and focus.
Over 25 years of experience with consistent jury trial work.
Graduated from Case Western Reserve School of Law with honors (Order of
the Coif) and served as an editor of the Case Western Reserve Law Review. U.S. Navy 1963-1967, service with U.S.S. Fletcher, Underwater
Demolition Team 12, and SEAL Team ONE. Won Bronze Star (with Combat V)
and Purple Heart. http://www.gulicklaw.com/meet_john.htm 13NOV2011: email from Jim Dickson Franklin and Doc, Jim Dickson
Photos by Jim Dickson
30:6
For he left behind him a defender of his house against his enemies, and one  
;
that will requite kindness to his friends.THE BOOK OF ECCLESIASTICUS Also known as "The Book of Sirach."
Catholic Bible CHAPTER 30.
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MMCM Devereaux "Bull" Knox, USN (Ret) R.I.P.
Nicholas Bickle, Rogue SEAL: An active duty in the United States Navy Sea,
Air and Land (SEAL) Teams, commonly known as Navy SEALs, allegedly
smuggled
around 80 AK-47 rifles as well as Iraqi-made weapons into the US.
ROBERT (BOB) K. WAGNER May 5, 1933 - August 15, 1968
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Master Chief Studdard is a native of Alabama and a 1982 graduate of
Berry High School. In December 1984 he enlisted in the Navy and attended
boot camp at Naval Recruit Training Center, Great Lakes. He entered the
UDT/SEAL pipeline and successfully completed Basic Underwater
Demolition/SEAL Training, Class 137 in May 1986.
A highly decorated Navy SEAL from Virginia Beach died
Wednesday from injuries sustained in combat operations in eastern
Afghanistan, the Navy said Friday. Chief Special Warfare Operator Collin Trent Thomas, 33,
was shot while deployed with a SEAL team based at Joint Expeditionary Base
Little Creek. As is customary in operations involving the elite commando
units, the Navy released no other details about the circumstances of his
death. A native of Morehead, Ky., Thomas was a 13-year Navy
veteran who had been awarded a Purple Heart medal, two Bronze Stars and a
host of personal, unit and campaign decorations. He graduated from Rowan County (Ky.) High School,
attended Morehead State University and enlisted in the Navy on Feb. 20,
1997. Since February 2000, he had been assigned to various
East Coast-based SEAL teams and was involved in numerous combat operations
in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Navy said. “Collin Thomas was a brave American patriot and an
incredibly gifted Navy SEAL,” a senior officer in his command was quoted
as saying in the Navy statement. “His tireless professionalism,
inspiring passion for life, and humble demeanor made him a role model for
all who knew him. We are deeply saddened by this tremendous loss of a
brother in arms.” Lt. Arlo Abrahamson, a spokesman for Naval Special
Warfare Group 2, called Thomas’ death an “incredible loss.” “Collin’s teammates will remain resolved in their
fight against terrorist elements in Afghanistan, because they know
that’s what Collin would have wanted,” Abrahamson said. Thomas is survived by his parents, Clayton and Paula
Thomas of Hertford, N.C., his sister, Meghan Edwards of Morehead, and his
fiancée, Sarah Saunders of Virginia Beach. A private memorial service will be held next week at the
Little Creek base.
Subject: Chief Petty Officer Collin
Trent Thomas
(LOUISVILLE COURIER-JOURNAL 20 AUG 10)
Thomas, who became a Navy SEAL, was killed Wednesday during a combat
operation in eastern Afghanistan. He was 33. Thomas enlisted in the Navy
in 1997, two years after graduating from Rowan County High School. Thomas
received SEAL training, which the Navy calls “six months of some of the
most demanding training in the U.S. military,” early in his naval
career, according to a press release on Thomas’ death. He had been assigned to various East Coast-based SEAL teams since
February 2000 and was deployed several times overseas, including
supporting operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, the press release said. A
decorated combat veteran, he received two Bronze Stars for valor and a
Purple Heart, among many other recognitions. Alderman said she was friends with his mother and has known
Thomas since he was a child. She said Thomas was drawn to the military
partly out of deep respect for his father, a career Marine. As a child,
Thomas grew up on military bases before his father retired from the Marine
Corps and the family moved back to Morehead. Thomas is survived by his parents, Clayton and Paula, his younger
sister, Meghan, and his fiancée, Sarah Saunders, the press release said.
When home from deployments, Thomas would catch up with friends in
Morehead. In all the years Alderman knew Thomas, she said she never heard
a negative word said against him. She said Thomas loved the outdoors and
would go camping and hiking with his parents, who moved to California
after he joined the Navy.
“He truly loved his life as a SEAL,” Alderman said. “He always
wanted to do what was right and he felt this was what’s right.”
Because of the secretive nature of the special operations unit, there
were times Thomas’ family had no warning of a deployment.
“It depended on the mission,” Alderman said. “Sometimes they knew
… other times, they didn’t know and didn’t hear for a long
time.”
Thomas was very close to his mother and father, and Alderman said the
family is struggling with his death but proud of his service.
“They’re devastated,” Alderman said. “They’re trying to focus
on what they had with Collin, instead of what they won’t have.
They’re looking back at all the wonderful times they had with him —
that’s how they’re getting through it.”
LDNN: Vietnamese SEALs x
Kiet Nguyen LDNN, 'nam Seastory
Hi Bob, At that time there was not any ordered from our commander on that ship to rescue that guy. I did not hesitate to jump down in the water with my spare life vest from the UDT-SEAL's gear. I swam as fast as I could to reach to him and graped his arm.
LDNNs
My name is Mike Rush,
not the same guy that is part of the UDT/SEAL Association. I gave Doc
Riojas Some
of these photos are part of my collection,
I am just an independant historian.
From: spikey1971 [at] The page 16 looks cool.
Hi Doc,
Petty
Officer Nguyen Van Kiet :
Vietnam
War: “It was their country. They deserve respect.”
When
Hollywood made a movie about
the dramatic rescue of a downed American pilot during the Vietnam War,
it left one man out: the South
Vietnamese navy
officer who was a key member of the rescue team. Doc Riojas'
Note: I
first met Kiet at Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam when he was
undergoing LDNN (SEAL) training. I was one of the
SEAL
LDNNAdvisors at the
LDNN Camp.
LT.
Richard Kuhn was our OinC.
X-LDNN Thang turned V.C.
Hi Doc,
TTPhat <phat28_6 [at] yahoo DOT com Chao anh Kiet, WEBMASTER: TT Phat included this photo
and I wonder if that is him in this picture. If it is, i remember
him well, he lost one foot in an Op 1967 out at the CHina Sea Coast with
the ST-2's 7th plt. webmaster: Erasmo "Doc" Riojas
docrio45 [at] gmail DOT com
Hi Doc, ----- Original Message ----- Then US forces withdrawn on 1973 the LDNN still rock and
roll as well as of itself. I never heard Thang anymore while I
was in LDNN headquarter as an instructor to the SEALs class # 8.
On the fall of Republic of Vietnam Armed Forces, the Commies
took over Saigon and control whole VN country, Thang , I heard that he became an high ranking officer to
the VC. Now he is living in Go Cong. I have his home phone
number but never called him. My friends still live in Saigon,
once asked him wants to contact with me; But he rejected it. I
thought if I did not leave VN my life should be in big trouble
by him. For the rescue of BAT 21 operation succeed; that mole
won't mercy me by the way of my contribution to the Americans. For now our government are having connections with
commies on many things... However Commies are never too honest..
Mike, what are you doing now? Can you tell me? On this May of 30
Thuy (my wife) and I will be in Santa Ana where Garden Grove for the STD
reunion. If you are living close this area I am very happy to
invite you to join with us at the Seafood Kingdom restaurant
6:00PM - 11:00PM 30.5.2010 If use GPS use the city hall address
( City Of Westminster, CA)
I was told the he was killed after it was found out he was
selling information and maybe he was the reason why Xray platoon
got shot up so bad. The whole Xray platoon tour seemed to be
doomed from the start. So I was amazed that you said that Thang
was alive in Vietnam. I think his full name was Bo Van Thang or
maybe I have it backwards. Very interesting information. Did you know him? I
wonder where he went after Xray platoon, maybe to an LDNN
platoon? Best wishes. Regards,
Mike Rush I've been collecting UDT/SEAL/LDNN items for over 15yrs. A
lot of people know I collect this stuff so they usually contact
me. I have gotten some GREAT stuff from former SEALs that knew I
liked to collect these items. Mainly I get a lot of stuff from
West Coast guys, I have very little contact with any East Coast
guys, Dan Olson gave me some cool stuff a few years ago and I
got some stuff from Ace Sarich in the mid 90's but that's about
it. I'm working on getting another hug batch of UDT/SEAL and
LDNN patches, hopefully soon. I'd be honored to have your hat.
Please let me know when you put the pics up so I can check them
out. When I get home at the end of June I can re-shoot
everything in a larger format if you want. Mike Email from: phat28_6 [at] yahoo.com "Thang low " is the intructor and gave you plaque. Kiet Nguyen Hi Doc, Thuy LDNN Kiet Nguyen LDNN
Hi Doc Rio, & all, The LDNN barrack was nearby with Navy SEAL advisors in that Naval base.
I had soem good memories with my Vietnamese LDNN Chief Hen who was
in charged of Intel in that team.
Vietnam Facts vs. Fiction received from: Bill Langley This email was cleaned by emailStripper,
available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm Doc Riojas Note: I was given the
gift of a set of 4 DVDs "Vietnam War Secrets" this
past Christmas. The Truth became the first casualty of war.
Correspondent Edward Rasen is the narrator.
Although I am not impressed with it's
format, it does contain a lot of great graphics and short
movies,and statistics as stated in this, above, article. Woody Woodward and HOI
CO Trinh Hoa Hiep LDNN lt. LDNN Instructor, 2 trainees,
and BMC Willis, CamRanhBay LDNN Trng.Camp
Vietnamese SEALs, (LDNNs)
East Coast 2009
Reunion UDT - SEAL Association.org "The
Blast" 18 Aug 2009 UDT SEAL Reunion Little Creek VA
The picture that used to be here was removed at one of the guys request.
His request came with the below message:
He wrote that the picture was taken during OCS and that some
"chick" had put it up in FACEBOOK . The one night to go out to town and eat at a restaurant.
But, we could wear nothing but our stripped down whites. Totally shaved USMC style haircuts, full deal. It was embarrassing as hell!
Good people in the picture.
The other 3 Officers in that photo were:
. . . . . and that is all i can
say about that. RIO
Liên
Đoàn Người Nhái (LDNN); Training Camp in CamRanhBay 'nam
It is with
great sadness that the UDT-SEAL Association informs its membership about
the passing of
BMC Walter
"Sam" Ciechon, USN (Ret.) SEAL, Class 25, on July 9,
2010.
Walter "SAM"
Ciechon USN (Ret.) SEAL, Class 25 Walter
"Sam" Ciechon, 88, died Friday, July 9, 2010, in Prince
William Hospital in Northern Virginia of pneumonia. He was the husband
of Theresa (Chamberlain) Ciechon of Virginia Beach, married Dec. 7,
1962. He was born in Morden in the province of Manitoba, Canada on Jan.
21, 1922. The son of Micholai and Alexandria (Seminuk) Ciechon, he moved
from Canada to Lynn, Mass., in 1927 with his siblings and parents. He
was a World
War II veteran
of the U.S. Navy. He served as a hard hat diver, in EOD and UDT 21-22.
He retired in 1962 and then worked for Prudential Insurance Companies.
He was a member
of Bayside Masonic Lodge, National Rifle Association, and The UDT
Seal Association. He was of Protestant faith. He enjoyed spending
time with family, friends and especially his grandchildren. He loved
to laugh.
In addition to
his wife, he is survived by a daughter, Janet Fox of Texas; a son,
Samuel Martin Ciechon and wife Patsy of Virginia Beach; a daughter,
Melanie Ciechon Emerick and husband Kevin of Fairfax, Va.; five
grandchildren, Vanessa Fox, Dino Kiriakou, Nicholas Walter Ciechon,
Walt William Emerick, and Avarie Grace Emerick; and many others he
considered a part of his extended family. He was preceded in death
by his parents; a son, Edward; a sister, Mary; and a brother, Joseph
Ciechon.
Memorial
services: will
be held 3 p.m. Saturday, July 24, at St. Francis Episcopal Church,
509 S. Rosemont Road, Virginia Beach, by Chaplain O'Boyle.
A
celebration of his life: will
be held at Grand Affairs, 2036 Pleasure House Road, Virginia Beach,
following the service.
In lieu of
flowers, memorial donations may be made to Alzheimer's
Association
, P.O. Box 96011, Washington, DC 20090-6011, Alz.org.
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Morning Folks,
One of our guys, although he had
the misfortune of going Army instead of Navy, has become a writer in About the Author
Carl’s professional career began as an Army and then FAA air
traffic controller. He advanced from a small radar van in the
Central Highlands of Vietnam to the TRACON in one of our nation’s
busiest airports. He also became a commercial pilot and flight
instructor, retiring after thirty-nine years of flying. By 1986 he
was experiencing severe burnout. He put himself through the police
academy, resigned from the FAA and became a deputy Sheriff in Reno,
Nevada. He retired after a distinguished career on the street. Not
only the cop on the beat, Carl became a renowned traffic accident
reconstructionist on his departments Major Accident Investigation
Team, as well as a highly acclaimed crime scene investigator.
Throughout his life Carl has been a student of the paranormal and
often experienced the effects of the supernatural in his personal
life. In 2012 he became involved in the saga of the haunted Allen
House in Monticello, Arkansas and its resident spirit, Ladell Allen
Bonner. The result of dozens upon dozens of paranormal interactions
with Ladell led Carl to write his first book about Ladell’s life
and death. Writing that first book sparked a latent avocation in his
life: writing. Carl has always been a connoisseur of military
history, and that interest began a new direction for his writing.
This latest book is the story of Wendell Fertig, and the beginning
of a thrilling new series, 'Behind The Lines.' While the stories are
fictionalized, they are all based upon factual military history.
Join in with Carl and enjoy his books as you gain an interesting new
insight in what war is all about. THE
INDOMITABLE PATRIOT Fertig,
The Guerrilla General
Doc Riojas Comment:
Once i started reading this book, i have find myself hard to putting it down!
because of my very old age (84
yr old eyes and at the end of being able to correct my vision) I
find that the way the paragraphs are other important text are spaced to
be extremly easy to read.
Having retired from the Navy
and traveled to that part of the orient reminds me of my days as a guerrilla
combatant as part of the Navy SPecial Warfare serving as a Navy SEAL in the
Jungles of Vietnam.
The author is equally as good
a military writter as Tom Clancy. This story may possibly be material
for a great movie similar to the the movie produced about the POW rescue in
WWII by Filipino Guerilla fighters and the U.S. Army Rangers.
"The Great Raid"
Do not wait to buy it
tomorrow, order
it today ! It was recommended to me by CDR R.D. Thomas (recommended
for the Medal of Honor by the US Army, but our politically correct US Navy
downgraded it to a Navy Cross. SHame on them !
Carl McLelland,
USMC Pilot: the author’s father
PaAaina & Lil Rio
David PaAaina
Dave's Nephew and Damien Rio Vasquez
at Paaoa, Hilo, Hawaii
UDT-22 in Artic
David F. Godshall
Adm. Harward
Richard Marcinko
Zinke
Navy SEAL
back to action
49 when he re-enlisted in 2006; needed hip surgery By Jeanette Steele .May 2,
2010
Mike Carrol
By: Charles W. Sasser Date: September 7 , 2011 Special Contributor
Credit: Navy SEAL and SWCC.
Credit: Navy SEAL and SWCC.
This is the first article in a three-part series from Charles Sasser,
about the Genesis of the Navy SEALs. The second post is “Genesis of
the Navy SEALs—The Early Years.” The third post is “Genesis
of the Navy SEALS—Today.”
Who do you call if, say, the most ruthless terrorist leader in the world
needs his ticket punched? You call for a real breed apart, for men who
are warned during BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolitions/SEAL) training
that “twenty five percent of you may not live until you’re
thirty”—and they still take the job.
How does America produce such men?
Although World War II is looked upon as the start of the SEAL legend,
the concept of waterborne commandos actually stretches back to at least
Syracuse in ancient Sicily. Under siege by Athens in 414 B.C., Syracuse
constructed palisades to impale enemy watercraft and dispatched swimmers
to sabotage ships threatening the city.
Tyre in present-day Lebanon used swimmers to cut the anchor ropes of
enemy ships when Alexander the Great besieged it.
Italians at the beginning of WWII were the first to actually deploy
combat swimmers in modern times. They used swimmers with underwater
breathing devices to sink three British ships at Gibraltar.
Not that the United States lacked the capability for such operations.
Even before Pearl Harbor, Americans had access to a remarkable
self-contained underwater breathing system developed by Christian J.
Lambertsen that permitted a swimmer to breathe underwater for an hour or
so without expelling telltale bubbles. Since the U.S. Navy showed little
interest in the beginning, Lambertsen went to the U.S. Army, where he
was charged with equipping and training “operational swimmers” for
the OSS, Office of Strategic Services, forerunner of today’s CIA.
Invasion forces preparing to land in North Africa in the autumn of 1942
faced a situation that required an unorthodox approach—combat
swimmers. Vichy French had constructed a massive boom and net
arrangement across the mouth of the Wadi Sefou River near Casablanca in
Morocco. Beyond, a large stone fortress bristling with 155mm and 75mm
guns guarded the river entrance against an invasion force. Planners
recruited a demolitions expert, Navy Lieutenant Mark Starkweather, and
16 other men to clear the mouth of the river. Their official designation
was CDU—Combat Demolition Unit. Starkweather became the grandfather of
America’s undersea commandos. He was the first.
On 11 November 1942, CDU succeeded in blowing up the obstruction in the
river and clearing the way for a successful Allied landing.
That same year, the Navy began to waken to the potential of combat
swimmers. It banded with the U.S. Army’s Alamo Scouts to establish
Amphibious Scouts and Raiders to function as commandos in island
warfare. The concept of “sea warriors” serving as unconventional
forces ashore had been planted, although Scouts and Raiders never became
as broadly based as are the SEALs or Army Special Forces (Green Berets)
today. Instead, on 6 June 1943, Admiral Ernest J. King gave orders for
the unit to shift its primary focus to underwater demolitions.
Navy Lt. Commander Draper L. Kauffman, a bomb disposal expert, was
handed the task of organizing the first Naval Clearance Diving Unit (NCDU)
at Fort Pierce, Florida. The unit was so secret that virtually no one in
the Navy knew about it. Volunteers learned hydrographic reconnaissance
and mapping as well as demolitions. They operated out of small boats and
wore full combat fatigues with life belts and combat boots to protect
their feet from coral reefs. Hooked to safety lines, they were not
expected to do any swimming.
However, the tragic invasion of Tarawa in November 1943 alerted the Navy
to its need for underwater surveillance. Not because swimmers were used
there, but because they weren’t. Landing craft loaded with tanks and
Marines ran aground on coral reefs surrounding the island and were cut
down by murderous Japanese fire from ashore. More than 1,000 Marines
were killed and 2,500 wounded trying to breach the island’s reefs.
More Americans were killed trying to reach the island than were slain in
actual fighting.
Following Tarawa, Admiral Richmond Kelly Turner, amphibious fleet
commander, vowed that such a debacle would never happen again. He issued
orders for the creation of special teams of men trained to scout out
enemy beaches, remove natural and man-made obstacles with explosives,
and guide invading forces ashore. With Turner’s encouragement, LCDR
Kauffman at Fort Pierce designed a tough new program for the soon-to-be
designated UDTs (Underwater Demolition Teams) to train special men for
demanding duty.
LCDR John T. Koehler, commander of UDT-2, took the concept a step
further in realizing that the future of UDT operations lay with
swimmers. He abandoned conventional ties to watercraft, took to the sea,
and began studying the use of fins and dive masks, compasses and
mine-detecting devices.
Kauffman’s and Koehler’s organizational setup became the pattern for
all UDTs—and subsequently cleared the way for SEALs when they arrived
on the scene. Each UDT consisted of one headquarters division and four
operational platoons of three officers and 16 men each, for a total team
strength of 100 men. Two teams (still designated NCDU at the time) were
sent to the Mediterranean, where they participated in the invasion of
France. One went to England and participated in the D-Day landing on
Normandy. Two were sent to Guadalcanal and three were assigned for use
by Admiral Turner out of Hawaii. It was said a man had to be “half
fish and half nuts” in order to join up.
Each man of a team in action was flagged with blue-green paint as
camouflage and then marked with black stripes from toes to chin and down
each arm in order to use his body to measure the depth of water near
shore. “Frogmen,” as they were dubbed because of their unusual
camouflage markings and near-naked bodies, caused a stir wherever they
appeared.
There is an amusing story of appreciation about how Kauffman was called
by the landing beach master for a consultation on the Saipan beachhead.
He and a UDT lieutenant hailed a passing amtrac and rode it in. They
were dressed in swimming trunks and sneakers, and still had stripes
painted around their bodies.
A Marine looked out of his foxhole. “Christ, I’ve seen
everything,” he cracked. “We ain’t even got the beach yet and the
tourists are here already.”
The “tourists” were here to stay, to eventually become the toughest,
most flexible unconventional force in the world. By VJ Day 1945, UDTs
had developed a distinctive pattern and methods that would later be
assimilated into the formation of the more broadly-based SEALs. The idea
of “sea warriors for all seasons” in the U.S. Navy had been born and
a pattern was emerging. Symbol
This is the second article in a three-part series from Charles Sasser,
about the Genesis of the Navy SEALs. The first post is “Genesis of the
Navy SEALs—The Concept.” The third post is “Genesis of the Navy
SEALS—Today.”
It became apparent by the autumn of 1962 that the Soviets were moving
intercontinental ballistic missiles into Cuba. SEALs, who had already
been mapping possible invasion sites, training resistance forces and
conducting spy and assassination missions against Castro, were tasked to
provide evidence of the existence of missiles on the island. Events
revolving around the USSR, Cuba and the U.S., as Secretary of Defense
Robert S. McNamara put it, were forcing the earth to face its
“greatest danger of a catastrophic war since the advent of the nuclear
age.”
Ham-fisted Navy Lieutenant Roy Boehm, commander of SEAL Team Two, and
SEAL Petty Officer “Lump-Lump” Williams linked up with a CIA
“spook” known only as “John” to obtain that evidence. “John”
briefed the two SEALs aboard the submarine Sea Lion as it dove in the
Florida Straits on its way to Cuba.
“Gentlemen,” the CIA agent began. “You are about to embark on the
most significant mission of your military careers. The forces of
communism and the forces of the free world are being compelled into a
standoff the outcome of which only God knows. The world may be only days
away from nuclear confrontation. . . The United States has good reason
to believe the Soviet Union has moved ICBMs into Cuba. President Kennedy
will not back down, not even from nuclear war. The President will
broadcast it to the world as soon as we can confirm intelligence reports
that Castro and Khrushchev are installing ICBMs to target the United
States.”
The three men locked out of the sub off Havana in the middle of the
night and swam ashore. Photos of ICBM sites they obtained soon appeared
in Time magazine and other news sources and became part of a mountain of
undeniable documentation that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Newly-commissioned SEAL teams were starting to make their mark on a Cold
War that was fast producing a new style and concept of warfare. Spy
versus spy, covert terrorism, espionage, sabotage, assassination,
snooping and popping to catch your enemy with his pants down. . .
Specials operations forces like the SEALs were designed for the times,
designed deadly and efficient like the man-eating shark. War entered the
Atomic Age with its face painted black and green, an assassin’s dagger
in one hand and a peace dove in the other. The dove blew up if you
handled it wrong.
May 25, 1961, five weeks after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, a year and a half
before the Missile Crisis, President John F. Kennedy had announced his
intent to build unconventional warriors for unconventional times.
Addressing a joint session of Congress in one of the most important
speeches of his presidency, he set a goal for rocketing an American to
the moon before the end of the decade—and he called for a major
restructuring of the nation’s military to pull it back from sole
reliance on “massive nuclear retaliation.”
“I am directing the secretary of defense to expand rapidly and
substantially, in cooperation with our allies, the orientation of
existing forces for the conduct of non-nuclear war, paramilitary
operations, and sub-limited or unconventional war. . .”
He ordered the Pentagon to set aside $400 million to beef up Special
Forces, primarily Army Green Berets and a naval commando force capable
of operations on land, in the air, and on and under the sea. UDTs from
World War II would provide the foundation.
In 1945, there were 34 UDTs consisting of about 3,500 men. By 1948, that
number had dropped to a skeleton crew of seven officers and 45 enlisted
men. Naval unconventional warfare may have died out entirely but for the
insight of Commander Francis Douglas Fane, who struggled to preserve
UDTs and expand upon their capabilities.
“I realized,” he was to explain, “that if we were going to come
in, in future wars, we would have to be better prepared than just
swimming on the surface of the water. . . I thought of the idea of
working underwater all the way. Working with submersible out of
submarines. Coming in surreptitiously at night. Of being dropped by
helicopter into the water. I envisioned this whole system.”
The postwar role of UDT stopped shrinking as Fane sought to expand
missions for sea warriors and worked with scientists from around the
world to develop new equipment. By the time the Korean War erupted, UDT
training had been modified to encompass land operations, small unit
tactics and weapons familiarity. Frogmen previously confined to the
water were looking to the land and to the air as well.
Navy Bos’n Mate Roy Boehm survived WWII as intrigued by UDT Frogmen as
Fane. The thought of sea commandos rising out of the depths like sharks
to strike terror into the hearts of the enemy fascinated him. He
completed the Navy’s First Class Diving School, then applied for and
was accepted for UDT. He was the oldest man of approximately 240 who
began UDTR (Underwater Demolitions Training) Class-13 in July 1954.
Twenty one men survived the training; Boehm was one of them. The
attrition rate for UDT was about 90 percent, about the same rate as for
SEAL training today.
Boehm always said he learned something vital in UDTR that he never
forgot: the men you could depend on most were those who had to work
hardest to get what they wanted. The bonding of a team through an
experience such as UDTR built a band of brothers, elite operational
rogues who would willingly sacrifice their lives for each other.
By 1961, Boehm had been commissioned into the officer corps and was
operations officer of UDT-21. The team’s skipper, Lt. Commander Bill
Hamilton, shared Boehm’s vision of “sea warriors.” Although Boehm
was aware of President Kennedy’s vow to create unconventional troops,
he was unaware that plans were already underway deep in the bowels of
officialdom toward that end.
Hamilton summoned Boehm to his office following the Bay of Pigs. “Roy,
can you make commandos out of our people?”
“We’ve already started training them.”
“Start selecting the men you want from UDT. This is classified Top
Secret. I want you to select and train men as a nucleus for a Special
Operations force to be incorporated into the Underwater Demolitions
Units. You will discuss the creation of the unit with no one except me.
You will volunteer information on the purpose of training to no one, not
even the men undergoing it. Is that clear?”
Boehm had been waiting years for an opportunity like this.
“We’ve somehow been granted carte blanche to create the finest band
of unconventional warriors in the world,” LCDR Hamilton continued.
“President Kennedy has taken a lot of flack for the Bay of Pigs.
He’s not going to let it happen again. He’s caught up in the
unconventional warfare concept and has authorized us to do it the way we
want. . . Lieutenant Boehm, I know how you’ve wanted to see this
happen. Now, do it your way. Get men who can successfully complete any
mission anywhere in the world. . . Work fast, Lieutenant. I don’t know
how much time we have.”
To Boehm’s surprise, he was assigned a Presidential Priority One in
obtaining men and equipment. Thirty seven men reported aboard in January
1962; 19 more reported for duty as soon as they completed training or
returned from other operations. They were men like Bob “The Eagle”
Gallagher, who would become a legend feared by the Viet Cong; Gene
Tinnin, later killed in action along the Cambodian border; J.C. Tipton,
who would log countless missions into Latin America and Asia; Bill
Bruhmuller, a brave man who let himself be captured by the VC in order
to obtain information and escape; “Hoss” Kucinski; Hoot Andrews;
Rudy Boesch; “Lump-Lump” Williams, who would soon accompany Boehm
into Cuba and later go to Vietnam as advisor to the Vietnamese junk
force. . .
Over the next months, Boehm traded out training with Army Special Forces
in parachuting, foreign weapons, small unit tactics, counterinsurgency,
demolitions, espionage. . . His men learned to pick locks, fly
airplanes, burgle buildings, escape from the enemy, sky dive in addition
to military parachuting. . .
There are a number of different possibilities on how the acronym SEAL (SEaAirLand)
evolved. Whatever its origin, the designation and the men behind it soon
became admired by allies and feared by enemies. Backdated to January 1,
1962, the U.S. Navy SEALs were commissioned into service as the Navy’s
answer to guerrilla warfare and Army Special Forces in the Cold War. Sea
warriors had become a reality.
Boehm received orders as acting commanding officer of SEAL Team Two on
the East Coast, over a force of ten officers and 50 enlisted. SEAL Team
One under the command of Lieutenant Dave Del Guidice would soon be
formed on the West Coast. Roy Boehm, salty old sailor and WWII vet,
former bos’n mate, received the first SEAL orders. Acting commander of
the very first SEAL team to be commissioned in the United States Navy.
The First SEAL.
CP Note: This is the third article in the three-part “Genesis of Navy
SEALs” series from Charles Sasser. The first post is Genesis of the
Navy SEALs—The Concept. The second post is Genesis of the Navy
SEALS—The Early Years. A U.S. Navy SEAL team member, with Special
Operations Task Force – South, provides security overwatch via hilltop
during the early morning hours of a village clearing operation in Shah
Wali Kot District, June 25, 2011, Kandahar province, Afghanistan.
Missions such as these are conducted in order to hinder Taliban
influence and improve overall security throughout the province. U.S.
Army photo by Sgt. Daniel P. Shook. Caption credit: DVIDSHUB.
A U.S. Navy SEAL team member, with Special Operations Task Force –
South, provides security overwatch via hilltop during the early morning
hours of a village clearing operation in Shah Wali Kot District, June
25, 2011, Kandahar province, Afghanistan. Missions such as these are
conducted in order to hinder Taliban influence and improve overall
security throughout the province. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Daniel P.
Shook. Caption credit: DVIDSHUB.
Hardly had the Navy SEALs been formed than they were combat tested in
Vietnam. Two instructors from Team One arrived in-country on 10 March
1962 to teach the South Vietnamese how to conduct clandestine
operations. A month later, the first SEAL mobile training team (MTT) of
19 enlisted men and one officer, Lieutenant (j.g.) Philip P. Holtz, left
for Vietnam on a mission to train the South Vietnamese Coastal Force in
reconnaissance, sabotage and guerrilla warfare.
During this early period of the war, SpecOps SEALs and Green Berets were
“advisors.” It was not until February 1966 that the SEALs entered
the war for active combat duty when Team One sent Detachment Golf,
consisting of three officers and 15 enlisted men, into the Rung Sat
Special Zone near the capital city of Saigon. This zone was a delta area
composed of huge mangrove swamps crisscrossed by meandering streams
between Saigon and the South China Sea and the mouth of the Mekong River
to the southeast. Control of the region was critical for both sides and
became a major area of operations. Americans needed it because their
supply ships had to be able to move safely up and down the river to
Saigon. For the Viet Cong (VC), it was a major transit route from the
vast Mekong River Delta to the war zones of the north. Struggle for the
zone continued throughout the war.
Working with the riverine patrols in the Delta, Detachment Golf, soon
joined by Detachment Hotel, was the unit that most frequently clashed
with the VC and the source of many of the legends about SEALs. Although
there were never more than 200 SEALs in-country at any one time, the
“men with green faces,” as they were now know, became the most
highly-decorated unit of its size in the war: two Navy Crosses; 42
Silver Stars; 402 Bronze Stars; two Legions of Merit; 352 Commendation
Medals; three Presidential Unit Citations.
Vietnam refined the SEALs into the most highly-trained and effective
commando force the world had ever known. Much of their effectiveness
derived from the SEAL philosophy of always doing the unexpected and
doing it with elan.
“Hit the enemy tonight if he expects you tomorrow,” one SEAL
explained. “If he waits for you to come by sea, go across the
mountains or arrive by parachute. If he’s looking for a chopper, fly
an airliner. If he comes at you with a knife, shoot him. Throw the rule
book away. There are no rules in this kind of war.”
As Lieutenant Roy Boehm envisioned, SEALs were truly becoming men for
all seasons, ready and prepared to conduct any mission anywhere on the
globe. From Kwajalein Atoll during WWII, SEALs and their immediate
predecessors have fought in Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Latin America,
Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and have conducted hundreds of
missions in dangerous and little-known backwaters of the world.
The U.S. invasion in October 1983 of the tiny Caribbean island of
Grenada—Operation Urgent Fury—was the first time since before WWII
that an avowed communist government was replaced by a pro-Western one.
The action resulted in the deaths of four SEALs, the first combat losses
of SEALs since Vietnam.
Grenada was the most massive American invasion since the Inchon landing
of the Korean War, involving 13 ships, hundreds of fixed-wing aircraft
and helicopters, and more than 7,000 soldiers, sailors and airmen.
Twelve operators from SEAL Teams Four and Six were tasked to pave the
way by inserting onto Salines Airfield to mark the drop zone for an Army
Ranger airdrop. Eight-foot waves and 20-knot winds caught the SEALs as
they parachuted through pitch-black darkness into offshore waters. Four
SEALs vanished in the treacherous seas and became the first casualties
of the operation. Official casualties for the action were 19 American
dead, including the four SEALs, and 123 wounded. Forty-one Grenadians
and 29 Cubans were killed and several hundred wounded.
Four more SEALs were killed and eight wounded during Operation Just
Cause in Panama in 1989.
For years, the United States had been at odds with the Panamanian
strongman, General Manuel Noriega. President George Bush set Operation
Just Cause in motion on 20 December 1989 to depose the dictator and
arrest him after U.S. Federal Courts in Florida handed down indictments
accusing him of drug running. The essential task of shutting down
Noriega’s escape routes fell to Navy Special Operations. Three SEAL
missions were planned.
As the operation began, SEALs aboard two Navy river-patrol boats and two
Army landing craft closed off the harbor at Colon on the Caribbean side
of the isthmus. AT 11:30 p.m., H-Hour minus one hour and fifteen
minutes, four SEALs wearing black wetsuits and carrying satchel charges
blew up Noriega’s yacht, the President Porras, as it rode its lines
tied up to a pier in Balboa Harbor. That left Noriega’s Learjet at
Panama City’s Punta Paitilla Airport as his last readily available
means of escape. That was where things started to go wrong.
Near midnight, a U.S. Navy patrol boat idling about a mile offshore in
Panama Harbor launched fifteen Zodiac rubber boats loaded with three
platoons of 16 SEALs and an Air Force combat controller, their objective
the waterfront Paitilla airfield to disable Noriega’s jet.
The SEALs reached the airport without incident. But as they moved toward
the hangars, a force of PDF (Panamanian Defense Forces) guarding the
Learjet opened fire. In an instant, seven SEALs were hit, one fatally.
The storm of fire continued for almost a minute.
“We were filling that hangar with rounds; 40mm grenades were going
everywhere,” one SEAL recalled.
The PDF retreated under withering return fire. Four SEALs lay dead on
the runway and eight were wounded. A Panamanian intelligence officer
later revealed that three PDF soldiers died in the exchange while eight
others were carried away wounded. Surviving SEALs completed their
mission by blowing a hole through Noriega’s jet with a 40mm grenade
round.
Mission always came first.
Navy SEALs have continued to pull off operations like these in far-flung
regions of the world, some of which are too secret to reveal. Often
referred to as “the Quiet Warriors,” SEALs have a mandate to live in
the shadows. Sworn to confidentiality, they rarely divulge secrets about
their missions. You only hear about SEALs if something goes wrong, or if
they go very right.
During the Persian Gulf War of 1991, SEALs launched ops in the Gulf
against shipping and trained Kuwaiti Special Forces. SEALs led the War
on Terror after 911, conducting missions against ships suspected of
having ties to or carrying al Qaeda. During the 2001 invasion of
Afghanistan, a joint Special Ops unit of Green Berets, SEALs, CIA and
U.S. Air Force Special Tactics killed or captured over 200 Taliban and
al Qaeda fighters and destroyed thousands of pounds of weapons and
ordnance. SEAL Teams began rotating in and out of the country, pulling
top-level secret missions against Taliban and al Qaeda leaders.
Highly trained in everything from direct action and hostage rescue to
counterterrorism, they are America’s surgical instrument. They are who
you call when everything has to go right. Cocky, confident and
dedicated, they come from all walks of American life. They are
intellectuals and scholars, rodeo cowboys and race car drivers,
professors and doctors. . . Many speak multiple languages. It is said
that the average SEAL can outperform the average Harvard student or the
average Olympic athlete.
Only approximately 2,000 in number, they are organized into two groups
under the Naval Special Warfare Command and the U.S. Special Operations
Command. Odd-numbered SEAL Teams One, Three, Five and Seven are
headquartered on the West Coast under Naval Special Warfare Group One
out of Naval Amphibious Base, Coronado, California. Even-numbered SEAL
Teams Two, Four, Eight and Ten on the East Coast belong to Naval Special
Warfare Group Two at Little Creek Amphibious Base and Dam Neck Annex in
Virginia.
Each team is composed of six platoons and a headquarters element. Two
officers and 14 enlisted men make up a platoon, which is generally the
largest element committed to a mission. A platoon may be further
subdivided into two squads or four elements.
While there are eight confirmed SEAL teams, there is one additional team
that is so highly-classified that no one is supposed to know it even
exists. SEAL Team Six, otherwise known as Naval Special Warfare
Development Group (DEVGRU) caught the eye of the world on Sunday, 1 May
2011, when 24 of them led by the CIA dropped into Osama bin Laden’s
compound in Pakistan and delivered a simple but hard-hitting message:
From American with love.
The modern form of counterterrorism (CT) as practiced by SpecOps forces
got its start in the late 1960s to thwart Palestinian terrorists
hijacking airplanes in the middle East. Most countries lacked full CT
capabilities until after the 1972 Munich Olympics during which so-called
Black September terrorists massacred eleven Israeli athletes. Nearly
every nation since then has fielded elite CT elements.
Although SEAL Lieutenant Norman J. Carley of SEAL Team Two began
training a special squad in 1978 called Mobility Six, or MOB-6, to act
as a CT reaction force, the U.S. Navy’s official involvement in CT
began with the failed 1980 attempt to rescue American hostages from the
U.S. Embassy in Iran. During the Iran Hostage Crisis, the Pentagon
assigned a tough Navy maverick named Ricard Marcinko to work on possible
rescue plans. Commander Marcinko had already proved himself inhumanly
tough in missions in Vietnam and other places—blowing up supply junks,
charging through minefields, jumping at 20,000 feet with a
malfunctioning parachute. . . It was said of him that he made Arnold
Schwarzenegger look like Little Lord Fauntleroy. A sign at the entrance
to Marcinko’s retirement estate bears the warning: Trespassers will be
shot, survivors shot again.
Ronald Reagan’s election as president in 1980 brought an end to the
hostage crisis, but Admiral Thomas Hayward, Chief of Naval Operations,
approved Marcinko’s plans to create a SEAL CT unit. He authorized
Marcinko to design, build, equip, train and lead the best
counterterrorist force in the world. SEAL Team Six with 75 enlisted men
and 15 officers became operational as of 1 January 1981.
Since its secret debut, Team Six has been involved in many classified
missions, much of which are still classified. Those that are known
include: the 1991 rescue of Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide
under cover of darkness following the coup that deposed him; the capture
of Saddam Hussein in Iraq; tracking down war criminals in Bosnia;
rescuing Private Jessica Lynch after she became a POW in Iraq in March
2003; shooting pirates off the coast of Somalia; and, of course, the
operation at Osama bin Laden’s compound. “Maritime,” Marcinko was
famously quoted as saying, is any operation in which SEALs carry
canteens of water.
On 6 August 2011, 30 American Special Forces servicemen, most of them
elite Navy SEALs, some from SEAL Team Six, died when a Chinook
helicopter either crashed or was shot down during combat operations in
Afghanistan. Kimberly Vaughn, wife of SEAL Aaron Vaughn, gave CNN a
fitting epitaph for her husband. What she said of her husband could be
applied to any SEAL.
“There was no way—even if you could tell him this would have
happened, he would have done it anyway,” she said. “All those men
are like that. They’re selfless. I want to tell the world that this
was an amazing man, that he was a wonderful husband and a fabulous
father of two wonderful children. He was a warrior for Christ and he was
a warrior for our country and he wouldn’t want to leave this Earth any
other way than how he did.”
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CP Note: This is the third article in the three-part “Genesis of Navy
SEALs” series from Charles Sasser. The first post is Genesis of the
Navy SEALs—The Concept. The second post is Genesis of the Navy
SEALS—The Early Years. A U.S. Navy SEAL team member, with Special
Operations Task Force – South, provides security overwatch via hilltop
during the early morning hours of a village clearing operation in Shah
Wali Kot District, June 25, 2011, Kandahar province, Afghanistan.
Missions such as these are conducted in order to hinder Taliban
influence and improve overall security throughout the province. U.S.
Army photo by Sgt. Daniel P. Shook. Caption credit: DVIDSHUB.
A U.S. Navy SEAL team member, with Special Operations Task Force –
South, provides security overwatch via hilltop during the early morning
hours of a village clearing operation in Shah Wali Kot District, June
25, 2011, Kandahar province, Afghanistan. Missions such as these are
conducted in order to hinder Taliban influence and improve overall
security throughout the province. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. Daniel P.
Shook. Caption credit: DVIDSHUB.
Hardly had the Navy SEALs been formed than they were combat tested in
Vietnam. Two instructors from Team One arrived in-country on 10 March
1962 to teach the South Vietnamese how to conduct clandestine
operations. A month later, the first SEAL mobile training team (MTT) of
19 enlisted men and one officer, Lieutenant (j.g.) Philip P. Holtz, left
for Vietnam on a mission to train the South Vietnamese Coastal Force in
reconnaissance, sabotage and guerrilla warfare.
During this early period of the war, SpecOps SEALs and Green Berets were
“advisors.” It was not until February 1966 that the SEALs entered
the war for active combat duty when Team One sent Detachment Golf,
consisting of three officers and 15 enlisted men, into the Rung Sat
Special Zone near the capital city of Saigon. This zone was a delta area
composed of huge mangrove swamps crisscrossed by meandering streams
between Saigon and the South China Sea and the mouth of the Mekong River
to the southeast. Control of the region was critical for both sides and
became a major area of operations. Americans needed it because their
supply ships had to be able to move safely up and down the river to
Saigon. For the Viet Cong (VC), it was a major transit route from the
vast Mekong River Delta to the war zones of the north. Struggle for the
zone continued throughout the war.
Working with the riverine patrols in the Delta, Detachment Golf, soon
joined by Detachment Hotel, was the unit that most frequently clashed
with the VC and the source of many of the legends about SEALs. Although
there were never more than 200 SEALs in-country at any one time, the
“men with green faces,” as they were now know, became the most
highly-decorated unit of its size in the war: two Navy Crosses; 42
Silver Stars; 402 Bronze Stars; two Legions of Merit; 352 Commendation
Medals; three Presidential Unit Citations.
Vietnam refined the SEALs into the most highly-trained and effective
commando force the world had ever known. Much of their effectiveness
derived from the SEAL philosophy of always doing the unexpected and
doing it with elan.
“Hit the enemy tonight if he expects you tomorrow,” one SEAL
explained. “If he waits for you to come by sea, go across the
mountains or arrive by parachute. If he’s looking for a chopper, fly
an airliner. If he comes at you with a knife, shoot him. Throw the rule
book away. There are no rules in this kind of war.”
As Lieutenant Roy Boehm envisioned, SEALs were truly becoming men for
all seasons, ready and prepared to conduct any mission anywhere on the
globe. From Kwajalein Atoll during WWII, SEALs and their immediate
predecessors have fought in Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Latin America,
Panama, Bosnia, Iraq, Afghanistan and have conducted hundreds of
missions in dangerous and little-known backwaters of the world.
The U.S. invasion in October 1983 of the tiny Caribbean island of
Grenada—Operation Urgent Fury—was the first time since before WWII
that an avowed communist government was replaced by a pro-Western one.
The action resulted in the deaths of four SEALs, the first combat losses
of SEALs since Vietnam.
Grenada was the most massive American invasion since the Inchon landing
of the Korean War, involving 13 ships, hundreds of fixed-wing aircraft
and helicopters, and more than 7,000 soldiers, sailors and airmen.
Twelve operators from SEAL Teams Four and Six were tasked to pave the
way by inserting onto Salines Airfield to mark the drop zone for an Army
Ranger airdrop. Eight-foot waves and 20-knot winds caught the SEALs as
they parachuted through pitch-black darkness into offshore waters. Four
SEALs vanished in the treacherous seas and became the first casualties
of the operation. Official casualties for the action were 19 American
dead, including the four SEALs, and 123 wounded. Forty-one Grenadians
and 29 Cubans were killed and several hundred wounded.
Four more SEALs were killed and eight wounded during Operation Just
Cause in Panama in 1989.
For years, the United States had been at odds with the Panamanian
strongman, General Manuel Noriega. President George Bush set Operation
Just Cause in motion on 20 December 1989 to depose the dictator and
arrest him after U.S. Federal Courts in Florida handed down indictments
accusing him of drug running. The essential task of shutting down
Noriega’s escape routes fell to Navy Special Operations. Three SEAL
missions were planned.
As the operation began, SEALs aboard two Navy river-patrol boats and two
Army landing craft closed off the harbor at Colon on the Caribbean side
of the isthmus. AT 11:30 p.m., H-Hour minus one hour and fifteen
minutes, four SEALs wearing black wetsuits and carrying satchel charges
blew up Noriega’s yacht, the President Porras, as it rode its lines
tied up to a pier in Balboa Harbor. That left Noriega’s Learjet at
Panama City’s Punta Paitilla Airport as his last readily available
means of escape. That was where things started to go wrong.
Near midnight, a U.S. Navy patrol boat idling about a mile offshore in
Panama Harbor launched fifteen Zodiac rubber boats loaded with three
platoons of 16 SEALs and an Air Force combat controller, their objective
the waterfront Paitilla airfield to disable Noriega’s jet.
The SEALs reached the airport without incident. But as they moved toward
the hangars, a force of PDF (Panamanian Defense Forces) guarding the
Learjet opened fire. In an instant, seven SEALs were hit, one fatally.
The storm of fire continued for almost a minute.
“We were filling that hangar with rounds; 40mm grenades were going
everywhere,” one SEAL recalled.
The PDF retreated under withering return fire. Four SEALs lay dead on
the runway and eight were wounded. A Panamanian intelligence officer
later revealed that three PDF soldiers died in the exchange while eight
others were carried away wounded. Surviving SEALs completed their
mission by blowing a hole through Noriega’s jet with a 40mm grenade
round.
Mission always came first.
Navy SEALs have continued to pull off operations like these in far-flung
regions of the world, some of which are too secret to reveal. Often
referred to as “the Quiet Warriors,” SEALs have a mandate to live in
the shadows. Sworn to confidentiality, they rarely divulge secrets about
their missions. You only hear about SEALs if something goes wrong, or if
they go very right.
During the Persian Gulf War of 1991, SEALs launched ops in the Gulf
against shipping and trained Kuwaiti Special Forces. SEALs led the War
on Terror after 911, conducting missions against ships suspected of
having ties to or carrying al Qaeda. During the 2001 invasion of
Afghanistan, a joint Special Ops unit of Green Berets, SEALs, CIA and
U.S. Air Force Special Tactics killed or captured over 200 Taliban and
al Qaeda fighters and destroyed thousands of pounds of weapons and
ordnance. SEAL Teams began rotating in and out of the country, pulling
top-level secret missions against Taliban and al Qaeda leaders.
Highly trained in everything from direct action and hostage rescue to
counterterrorism, they are America’s surgical instrument. They are who
you call when everything has to go right. Cocky, confident and
dedicated, they come from all walks of American life. They are
intellectuals and scholars, rodeo cowboys and race car drivers,
professors and doctors. . . Many speak multiple languages. It is said
that the average SEAL can outperform the average Harvard student or the
average Olympic athlete.
Only approximately 2,000 in number, they are organized into two groups
under the Naval Special Warfare Command and the U.S. Special Operations
Command. Odd-numbered SEAL Teams One, Three, Five and Seven are
headquartered on the West Coast under Naval Special Warfare Group One
out of Naval Amphibious Base, Coronado, California. Even-numbered SEAL
Teams Two, Four, Eight and Ten on the East Coast belong to Naval Special
Warfare Group Two at Little Creek Amphibious Base and Dam Neck Annex in
Virginia.
Each team is composed of six platoons and a headquarters element. Two
officers and 14 enlisted men make up a platoon, which is generally the
largest element committed to a mission. A platoon may be further
subdivided into two squads or four elements.
While there are eight confirmed SEAL teams, there is one additional team
that is so highly-classified that no one is supposed to know it even
exists. SEAL Team Six, otherwise known as Naval Special Warfare
Development Group (DEVGRU) caught the eye of the world on Sunday, 1 May
2011, when 24 of them led by the CIA dropped into Osama bin Laden’s
compound in Pakistan and delivered a simple but hard-hitting message:
From American with love.
The modern form of counterterrorism (CT) as practiced by SpecOps forces
got its start in the late 1960s to thwart Palestinian terrorists
hijacking airplanes in the middle East. Most countries lacked full CT
capabilities until after the 1972 Munich Olympics during which so-called
Black September terrorists massacred eleven Israeli athletes. Nearly
every nation since then has fielded elite CT elements.
Although SEAL Lieutenant Norman J. Carley of SEAL Team Two began
training a special squad in 1978 called Mobility Six, or MOB-6, to act
as a CT reaction force, the U.S. Navy’s official involvement in CT
began with the failed 1980 attempt to rescue American hostages from the
U.S. Embassy in Iran. During the Iran Hostage Crisis, the Pentagon
assigned a tough Navy maverick named Ricard Marcinko to work on possible
rescue plans. Commander Marcinko had already proved himself inhumanly
tough in missions in Vietnam and other places—blowing up supply junks,
charging through minefields, jumping at 20,000 feet with a
malfunctioning parachute. . . It was said of him that he made Arnold
Schwarzenegger look like Little Lord Fauntleroy. A sign at the entrance
to Marcinko’s retirement estate bears the warning: Trespassers will be
shot, survivors shot again.
Ronald Reagan’s election as president in 1980 brought an end to the
hostage crisis, but Admiral Thomas Hayward, Chief of Naval Operations,
approved Marcinko’s plans to create a SEAL CT unit. He authorized
Marcinko to design, build, equip, train and lead the best
counterterrorist force in the world. SEAL Team Six with 75 enlisted men
and 15 officers became operational as of 1 January 1981.
Since its secret debut, Team Six has been involved in many classified
missions, much of which are still classified. Those that are known
include: the 1991 rescue of Haitian President Jean Bertrand Aristide
under cover of darkness following the coup that deposed him; the capture
of Saddam Hussein in Iraq; tracking down war criminals in Bosnia;
rescuing Private Jessica Lynch after she became a POW in Iraq in March
2003; shooting pirates off the coast of Somalia; and, of course, the
operation at Osama bin Laden’s compound. “Maritime,” Marcinko was
famously quoted as saying, is any operation in which SEALs carry
canteens of water.
On 6 August 2011, 30 American Special Forces servicemen, most of them
elite Navy SEALs, some from SEAL Team Six, died when a Chinook
helicopter either crashed or was shot down during combat operations in
Afghanistan. Kimberly Vaughn, wife of SEAL Aaron Vaughn, gave CNN a
fitting epitaph for her husband. What she said of her husband could be
applied to any SEAL.
“There was no way—even if you could tell him this would have
happened, he would have done it anyway,” she said. “All those men
are like that. They’re selfless. I want to tell the world that this
was an amazing man, that he was a wonderful husband and a fabulous
father of two wonderful children. He was a warrior for Christ and he was
a warrior for our country and he wouldn’t want to leave this Earth any
other way than how he did.”
Symbol
to: Al, Alan, Arles, Art, Bill, Bill, Bob, Bob,
Brian, Brooks, Carl, Chip, Cliff, Craig, Dante, Dee, Dennis, Dick, Dick,
Don, Duke, me, Eugene, Franklin, Gary
From: Willits Sawyer
Nick ,
A good review!
Willits Sawyer
Subject: A SEAL Sniper Instructor's Review of The
Movie Lone Survivor
To: Doc Rio
Looks like a good flick!
Lone-survivor-review-movie-sofrep-axe-luttrell-murphy
If you don’t want to read on then I’ll just save you the trouble,
and get straight to the point. It’s a great movie, go see it. I was
invited to attend a screening of Lone Survivor in New York last week,
and invited a few friends of SOFREP to attend (including Ian our radio
producer) with me. I was excited about the movie but secretly hoping
Peter Berg did right by Marcus, and his book since the movie has
produced some drama surrounding Dan Bilzerian’s role in the film.
Navy Fake SEAL Team 6 Commander Outs
Don Shipley As Real Navy SEAL
By Paul | December 17, 2013
Don Shipley
SEAL Wannabe Buster !
Scott Co. natives
working on submersible for U.S. Navy December 16th, 2013 11:13 am by Marci
Gore
Craig Short
"Moki"
Martin
SUPERFROG'S Moki
Martin donates $1,500 to Coronado Islander Sports Posted by Steve DaLuz on
December 12, 2013SUPERFROG Inc., producer of the SUPERFROG, SUPERSEAL and SEAL
SPRINT races, presented a check for $1,500 to the Islander Sports Foundation on
December 10th, 2013 to benefit Coronado Islander High School Athletics On Mon,
Dec 16, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Franklin Anderson <fwaranch@wildblue.net> wrote:
Jim --- I have this information on Joe—I don’t think we have any corpsman
that comes close to his achievements. I also have photo’s of HM SELLS, JOHN
ROBERTS and other outstanding corpsman that contributed so much to the SEALs in
the field. I’ll scan Page 2 in a different msg. Franklin Doc,
I thought I'd printed the story in the BLAST, but I guess not. List I have is
attached. I'll put the story on my to-do list. I'm currently trying to get the
UDT-SEAL Cuba stories: Bay of Pigs, Mongoose, and Missile Crisis. Want to stay
focused on that, since that's been my goal to get that story for several years.
Merry Christmas John Chalus
Mike Naus
Willits, Kassa, ST-1 guys
BUD/S video
Mike Naus
Albright
H. Birky
J
Joe Mc Carthy
Murphy
Aaron Vaughn
Dustin Turner
Adam Brown
Harry Humphries
Lourdes Tolentino & Rio
Matthew McCabe
Lil Ron ROgers
John Luke
Rick
Springs
Layton Bassett
Jeff Gonzalez
Joe Smith
Jorge Trevño
Durwood
White
Cummings
Steve Elson MH School
John
F. Rabbitt, Mike Naus, WO4 "Herb" ______ in Nha Be Vietnam
In 1983, SEAL Team SIX members were also responsible for the rescue and
evacuation of Governor Sir Paul Scoon from Grenada during Operation Urgent Fury.
During the predawn hours of October 24, 1983, in high winds, with little intel,
12 operators from SEAL Team SIX and 4 Air Force Combat Control Team members(CCT),
were assigned to perform a night combat equipment water jump in the ocean about
40 kilometers off the north-northwest tip of Port Salinas, Grenada.
One SEAL/CCT team performed LAPES (Low Altitude Parachute Extraction
System) to enter the water DropZone with Zodiac inflatable rubber boats. They
were to do an Over the Horizon (OTH) transit approximately 40 kilometers to the
vicinity of Port Salinas. Once there they were to scout out a suitable Beach
Landing Site and send swimmer scouts ashore, infiltrate the island and cache the
boats. They were to patrol the airfield, emplace the beacons and find a suitable
hiding place and wait for the Ranger's airdrop. All the time sending intel
reports back to the USS Guam.
The four SEALs were lost during the parachute jump into the ocean. It is not
clear why or how they drowned during the drop, but the hazards of jumping into
the sea with a heavy combat load in high winds could have been overwhelming.
These men were well trained for this type of operation, but even the best laid
plans sometimes go wrong.
The other SEAL/CCT team searched in vain for their lost teammates. Dis-hearted
they continued with their primary mission, however, half-way to the shore they
had to take evasive measures due to an approaching Grenadean Patrol boat. As
they cut their engines, the Zodiacs' motors were swamped by the Patrol boat's
wake and would not restart. The SEAL/CCT team then drifted out to
sea and made contact with the USS Caron (DD970). The operation was aborted.
Everyone is dresseed like a CPO. Why is that HM3 not wearing the
"BUD" ?
Joe Hurt Bud/s Class 54
Joe Hurt Bud/s Class 54
Joe ! Joe who? I forgot his Last Name and CLass number !
HELP!
From:Paul adkins
To: Doc
Riojas
Subj: Joe ! Joe who? I forgot his Last Name and CLass number !
HELP!
Doc ,
Lol....
You are so funny. Saw the pictures you added on page 16 my dad was
Joe Hurt Bud/s Class 54 ( you put Joe who?) and the sniper one is Paul. Plus any word on LT. Norris sent email, smail and smoke signals? No word on my end? Any Morse code on your side.
VR/
Paul Adkins
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Joe
Gallagher & Warner
"Eagle"
Gallagher and Warner aboard Carrier ??
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 13:58:16 -0500 From:
MANNY_PEREZ@fossac.navy.mil (MANNY PEREZ)
To: el.ticitl@worldnet.att.net
Here it is.
HM1 Robert Cline 1966
HM1 Lappohn Joe D'Angelo
HMC Mike Brown HMC Curtis
HMC Mallory HM2 Crumley
HM2 Sterret HMC Fullerton
HMC Dave Turner
HMC Mike Beske
HM1 Jeff Johnson
MH3 Kevin Vance
HM3 McCraken
HM3 Behymer HM3 Howard
Hawaiian: Na Koa o ke ka "or warriors from the sea.
HMCS Paul Rocca
email: PLRO1 [at] aol DOT com
HM2 Daderria
HM2 Connaster
______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject:
Re: Erasmo "Doc Rio" Riojas
SEAL Web Page has changed
Author: MANNY PEREZ
at FOSSAC01
Date: 2/2/98 1:51 PM
Rio,
My fault for not saving it.
Robert "Bob" Harris was in SEAL TM 2, in the 70's. So were Jim Myers, Bob
Poertner, Steve Shunk and Danny Day who is pictured in Harry's book erroneously as "Doc" Myers.
I have a picture of the 1st class of 8492 HMs that went through Key West in 1968, that were not Deep Sea Divers (8493) first. They were Joe Morgan, Jim
Cantaloupi, Larry Hubbard, Jim Myers and Me. Cantaloupi, Myers, Morgan and I had all been to Nam previously.
I was with "C" Company 3RD Recon BN in 65&66. After I got out of the hospital I ended up at 2D Force Recon at Camp Lejeune.66-68. They sent me to jump school and SCUBA school. When I was in SCUBA school in June
67 they told me they were going to start a class for Corpsman to become 8492's in the coming year.
It started in Jan of 68 and I went to that class with the guys mentioned above. They just threw us in with the current UDT class.
After they left the HM's stayed on for recompression chamber operation and advanced medicine. When we finished that the rest of the guys went to jump school and I went back to the Marines. Because I was already jump qualified I always considered myself the first of the new breed 8492's (that is my license plate).
We graduated in Mar 68. In October of 68 I reported back to
UWSS, Key West and filled a newly created billet for an 8492 to support the other 2 HM 8493's that were already on board.
Don Butler and Dale Moore were also in ST2 in the 70's. John Christy was another guy who spent a couple of years at SEAL Two in the mid
70's. He then went to recruiting duty and had a heart attack and died. I remember going to his funeral with a bunch of guys from ST2,in Dick Marcinko's Winnebago; but that is another story.
There was also a guy named Brian Bates at ST2 for a short time but he was kind of fucked up so we sent him to the Marines.
I hope this fills in some of the holes. I know I'll think of some more names of guys that came through UWSS while I was an instructor there.
A guy named Wolfe was one. He went to ST1 and lost his head to a helo rotor.
More later.
Manolito
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18 April 2013
From: Halolpal halolpal [at] aol DOT
com
To: Team guys
Plank owner Dennis McCormack took great pictures at the 2012 party. It's taken me 8 months to figure out how to put them in a slide show with music. Actually, I never did figure it out. Had to bring in a professional to crack the code.
The young looking men in the pictures aren't Vietnam era SEALs who found the Fountain of Youth (except for Rudy). We invited a few active duty SEALs from Team One to give us an update on team life. It was great to have them with us. They impressed us and they had good enough manners to say we impressed them.
Click on the video below and turn on the sound. I hope you enjoy. Thanks Dennis!
https://vimeo.com/64320958
click on this link, please.
In the Save the Date that I sent on 3/12/13 I asked everyone to rsvp by July 15. We have 162
rsvps, more than we've ever received in the first 30 days. If you know you're coming and you haven't
RSVP'd, please do so. We are concerned about capacity issues.
RSVP at halolpal@aol.com. Include your name, name of guests), your class #, and which
team(s) you were in.
Thanks,
Hal Kuykendall
http://www.flickr.com/photos/91857603@N07/page2/
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August 11, 2011
KABUL -- The Department of Defense has released the names of all the
service members killed in Saturday's crash of a CH-47 helicopter in
Afghanistan. Their mission was to rescue a SEAL squad that was in
a fierce firefight.
7 Afghan commandos also die in attack; SEALs were from same unit but not same team that killed Osama bin Laden
. video interactive photos discuss x Next story in Afghanistan related.
Aslo 80 pictures released of the helicopter crash site.
The sailors assigned to an East Coast-based Naval Special Warfare
unit that were killed are:
within 15 minutes www.HartzUltraGuard.com Lt. Cmdr. (SEAL) Jonas
B. Kelsall, 32, of Shreveport, La.
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-- Special Warfare Operator Master Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Louis J.
Langlais, 44, of Santa Barbara, Calif.
-- Special Warfare Operator Senior Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Thomas A.
Ratzlaff, 34, of Green Forest, Ark.
-- Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Senior Chief Petty Officer
(Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Kraig M. Vickers
36, of Kokomo, Hawaii
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Brian R. Bill,
31, of Stamford, Conn.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) John W. Faas, 31,
of Minneapolis, Minn.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Kevin A. Houston,
35, of West Hyannisport, Mass.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Matthew D. Mason,
37, of Kansas City, Mo.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Stephen M. Mills,
35, of Fort Worth, Texas
-- Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technician Chief Petty Officer
(Expeditionary Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist/Diver) Nicholas
H. Null, 30, of Washington, W.Va.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Robert J. Reeves,
32, of Shreveport, La.
-- Special Warfare Operator Chief Petty Officer (SEAL) Heath M.
Robinson, 34, of Detroit, Mich.
-- Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL) Darrik C.
Benson, 28, of Angwin, Calif.
-- Special Warfare Operator Petty Officer 1st Class (SEAL/Parachutist)
Christopher G. Campbell, 36, of Jacksonville, N.C.
-- Information Systems Technician Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary
Warfare Specialist/Freefall Parachutist) Jared W. Day, 28, of
Taylorsville, Utah
-- Master-at-Arms Petty Officer 1st Class (Expeditionary Warfare
Specialist) John Douangdara, 26, of South Sioux City, Neb.
-- Cryptologist Technician (Collection) Petty Officer 1st Class
(Expeditionary Warfare Specialist) Michael J. Strange, 25, of
Philadelphia, Pa.
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Front
row (lt to Rt): Jean Barber, Sandie Vick, Robyn Levy, Kitty McMillan, Jackie
Watkins, Diane Springs, Madeline Kohler. BACK row (lt to rt) Dave Barber,
Dale Vick, Bob Ley, Sandy Mc Millan, Mark Wardman, Jim Watkins, Jerry RUggles,
Rick Springs and Dave Kohler.
Pac NW: Details are provided by Dave Barber and Rick Springs class 75 summary. The report is intended for the absentee members of the class but they agreed to share with the Chapter.
Guys:
The Veteran's Day reunion of BUD/S Class 75 at Ft. Pierce, Florida was an
outstanding success. The only disappointment was not seeing those of you who
were unable to attend.
On Friday night at the crab and shrimp dinner the stories started coming out,
and yes, believe it or not, we even sang some BUD/S training songs. Then Dale
Vick broke out an amazingly large collection of photos from training. (How did
he ever manage to have a camera with him during all those evolutions?) Dale had
prepared two CDs for all of us, one with all the photos presented as still
shots, and the other as a video. If you didn't get copies, I'm sure he'd be glad
to send them to you.
On Saturday morning Rick Springs and I were proud to represent the class in the
5K soft-sand beach run. Both of us made it across the finish line, but my tongue
was just about picking up sand from the beach by the time I got there.
At mid day the show started with a jump from the Leap Frogs, and followed with a
speech from Ross Perot and a operations demonstration from SEAL Team 18. I
couldn't believe those guys arrived and departed the objective area in armored
vehicles. How come we had to walk way back then? Then the Vets of all ages,
sizes, service branches and distinctions were recognized. Just about everyone in
the stands was on his feet at one time or another. Afterwards we got to tour the
museum and gathered at our ORP where the attached photo was taken. Sorry for the
fact that the quality of this photo is not all that great, but many more were
taken and I'm sure you'll soon be getting copies of better ones. Nonetheless,
you can see that we enjoyed the company of these beautiful wives who had joined
us for the weekend.
I had never seen the Museum before. It has excellent displays of artifacts from
World War II to the present day that are presented with written and audio
descriptions. Obviously a lot of time, effort and money have gone into it,
thanks to many people including Dave Kohler who is on the Museum's board of
directors.
On Saturday evening we all went to the Cobbs Landing restaurant for dinner,
where more stories came out. We toasted lots of different things, but most
important was the one to Bob Baird's memory. At the dinner we resolved that we
should make a special effort to get every one of us back again in 2013 for the
40th YEAR REUNION OF OUR CLASS. SO, MARK YOUR CALENDARS NOW FOR VETERAN'S DAY
2013!!! No excuses! Tell your boss NOW that you want time off from work THEN!
I understand there was a memorial service and the swimming to sea of ashes on
Saturday morning. Unfortunately my wife Jean and I missed it because we had to
be on our way back to Seattle before then.
Thanks once again to Dave Kohler and Sandy McMillan for organizing our hotel
accommodations and participation in the weekend events, and to Rick Springs who
applied his detective skills from his career as a police officer to locate all
of us and then initiate the communications.
HOPE TO SEE YOU IN 2013!!
Best regards,
-- Dave Barber
Anyway, the runner up for Man of the year in TIME, and the first story told, which is always important; is our SEAL Admiral, "The Quite Admiral, William (Bill)
MCRAVEN." When Ens, McRaven came to the TEAMS from class 95, in the mid 70’, he was initially assigned to UDT 11's, SDV Platoon under Lt. DAVE
TASH. This is the officer from CLASS 75 that I had the deepest respect for. Even though it was always TASH and BAIRD, and you wouldn't say one name without the other, it was always a little more TASH than BAIRD. Mr. BAIRD had it a little easier because he was the gifted athlete. I know this also, if something would have happen to Mr.BAIRD in training and he had to drop out, for whatever reason, even during Hell Week, Mr. TASH would have made sure that the rest of us would have made it through. As far as I know, we were the first BUD/S Class to have a NO Quit Hell Week. We were a great class with great mentors.
MR. TASH and Admiral MCRAVEN are still the BEST of friends. Mr. TASH has the deepest admiration for Admiral MCRAVEN and even more important to this story; Admiral MCRAVEN has mutual admiration for Dave
TASH. Still today, when they email, Admiral MCRAVEN ends the email with “Your
A.O.I.C.” Here is a 4 star admiral that respects Mr. TASH so much and what TASH meant so much from a time they worked together in the late 70's and early 80's, that still today he humbles himself and sign it “Your ASSISTANT OFFICER IN CHARGE.” No greater honor could be made to man whose military carrier was cut short do to a training jump that went bad. But Mr. Tash’s life didn’t stop there.
As you will learn in the story, if you haven't already read it, Admiral MCRAVEN too had a parachute accident. Both accidents could have easily killed these men. Both men are honorable men; patriotic men and committed to those they have influence over. GOD kept them both here on this earth for a reason. I will tell you TASH'S story later, but you can read Admiral MCRAVEN'S story yourself.
It is my strong belief that GOD would be honored if you posted Admiral's MCRAVEN's TIME story on your website. The reason I say this is this: Ens.Tash was the glue that kept us together. Lt. TASH and later LT. Commander TASH had this same affect on
Ens. McRaven, who later became 4 star Admiral WILLIAM MCRAVEN. I am sure that Admiral
MCRAVEN, like the rest of us, has had a number of mentors through his life, but it is obvious that Mr. Tash was one of his first. It is also my understanding that Admiral MCRAVEN'S Class, BUD/S Class 95, 20 classes after ours, was also a NO Quit Hell Week. Amazing how some things line up?
It is our Christian belief that GOD set his plan in motion many many years ago, actually, billions of years ago. Admiral MCRAVEN has a unique relationship with this president that only GOD could have put together. Admiral MCRAVEN also had this same unique relationship with his fellow Texan President, GEORGE BUSH II, who was also my COMMANDER IN CHIEF, whom I did vote for.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2101745_2102133_2102330,00.html
Admiral MCRAVEN has influenced both presidents in a powerful way. This tells me that Dave Tash has had a considerable influence on a number of people in his life. But the biggest picture in all of this: OUR GOD is the master planner. HE sets life in motion and HE is the pilot of our universe and HE connects the dots.
Rick
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Michael H. Imhof
Howard Wasdin
Muster Pictures
Larry Bailey, Larry Lyons, and ??
Lowell Gosser and Gang
Billy Burbank
Bill Garnette and Clay Grady, and Margaret
Bill Langley
Rudy Boesch, Doc Clark, Billy Burbank
Bill Daugherty and wife ?Phyllis?
Larry Bailey
JOSE
TAYLOR (SEAL) RIP
aka: Lloyd
Favor Taylor
He is holding a FALSTAFF beer.
It looks like the RVN Cross of Gallantry MedalJose
photo from Roy Boehm
Jose in Greece 1955 photo by Rudy Boesch
This is how I will remember my teamate. Roy Boehm
(contributed this photo)
Jose Taylor ST-2 photo by: Rudy
Boesch
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:15 PM
To: bullfrogva@cox.net
Cc: bgormly@gormlyintl.com;
maxtrack@erols.com; docrio@ev1.net
Subject: JOSE TAYLOR
It is most regretful that I inform you that
"JOSE" passed away late Friday evening at home. He was admitted to
the hospital last Monday and in all truthfulness I did not expect him to
leave alive but he took a turn for the better and came home on Thursday but
passed away Friday.
SEAPOACHER SENDS
I will call Elizabeth Taylor in about an hour,
Thoai Thoai Hovanky Chief Financial Officer National Association of
Independent Schools 1620 L Street NW Suite 1100 Washington DC 20036
(202) 973-9725 mailto: hovanky@nais.orghovanky@nais.org www.nais.org
I am sorry to announce that Navy Lt. Commander Joe (Jose) F. Taylor passed
away at home in Florida on Friday, October 14, 2005 at 10:20 PM, after many
years of struggling with health issues.
The funeral will be held privately among close family members. He will be
interned at Arlington National Cemetery at a later date. Condolences can be
sent to: Mary Taylor
309 Timberline Drive Crestview, FL 32539 Telephone: 850-682-8977 In lieu of
flowers, Mrs. Mary Taylor has requested that friends honor Mr. Joe Taylor's
memory through the donation to Vietnamese Katrina victims.
Lt. Commander Joe Taylor had spent 18 months fighting in Viet Nam and loved
Vietnamese people. He had helped many refugees settle in US afer the fall
of Viet Nam. He had encouraged his wife Mary to help Vietnamese Katrina
hurricane victims who had lost everything. He served in World War II among
The Scouts and Raiders. He served as a team member of the UDT in Korean
War.
He was the plank owner of the SEAL Team TWO and in VietNam, he was serving
in the operation MAC SOG and NAD in DDa Nang.
(Please see his picture attached) ( Photo is posted on top of this page.)
Sincerely, Loc Ba Tran
(son of Lt. Colonel Tuan Ba Tran - Chau)
From: Norman Olson
To: ktnguyen95@comcast.net ; Hovanky, Thoai
Cc: Bob Nissley ; Bill Bruhmuller ; tanyvo@; Doc Rio ; Larry Bailey ;
UDTSEAL Association ; Tom Hawkins ; NSW-Seals
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:17
PM Subject: Re: Lt. Col Jose Taylor passed away.
To all,
Received the following from Bob Nissley, who served with Jose in Danang and
was a very close friend of his for years after.
----- Original Message -----
From: ktnguyen95@comcast.net
To: Norm Olson Cc: NSW-Seals ; Thoai Ho ; Tom Hawkins ; UDTSEAL
Association ; Larry Bailey ; Doc Rio ; tanyvo@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 1:38 AM
Subject: Lt. Col Jose Taylor passed away. Dear Norm, I am
forwarding this Vietnamese version email to you as concern to Lt. Col. Jose
Taylor who was worked with Sea Commandos sometimes before 1966.
Mr.Taylor just passed away on last Friday 14 October, 2005 in Crestview,
Florida. For more information please contact to Tran Ba Loc at his phone
numbers:
Best Regards,
Norm, keep scrolling on down!
br> Forwarded Message: --------------
From: Tan Vo <tanyvo@sbcglobal.net>
To: Loc Tran <locbatran@yahoo.com>
Cc: "MT Electric Ave." <melpersonal2001@yahoo.com>, Bo Bui
<hai_bo70@hotmail.com>, Khue Thuong Bui <kbui55@yahoo.com>,
Phong Dam <damqphong@yahoo.com>, Phong Dam <langdu@gmail.com>,
Doan Huu Dinh <doanhdinh@ureach.com>, "Dinh.Doan@usdoj.gov"
<dinh.doan@usdoj.gov>, Thao Do <thaolldb@yahoo.com>, Chien
Thang La <lavsop@aol.com>, Anh Le <atl752002@yahoo.com>, Hau Le
<leaitu@yahoo.com>, Steve Le <xuannhay@yahoo.com>, HoangDOAN11
Lee <hoanglee99@yahoo.com>, STD MACVSOG <loihosoa@yahoo.com>,
LTDNKT Moderator <ltdnkt-owner@yahoogroups.com>, Hung Ngo <ngoxhung@pacbell.net>,
Bac-Ai nguyen <bac-ai@comcast.net>, Chuyen Nguyen <nguyen31369@yahoo.com>,
Dieu Thanh Nguyen <hdlvn@hotmail.com Kinh Qui NT,Ch/huu NKT.
Tong hoi xin fw email cua the he 2 cua GD/NKT den qui vi tin buon nay ,neu
trong gia dinh NKT nhung qui vi nao truoc kia co lam viec chung voi Trung
Ta Hai Quan Jose Taylor xin lien lac voi em Tran Ba Loc de biet them chi
tiec,voi so dien thoai cua
TRANSLATION:
General
Conference please email
fw generation 2
GD / NKT
den you this
sad news, neu NKT
family but is yet
formerly worked with Navy
Captains Jose please
contact me Taylor Tran
Ba Loc For
more party, elephants
phone number
wrote:
Dear Rio,
Fond regards,
Marge Boesch
From: Hoot Andrews
To: Erasmo Riojas
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: Jose Taylor RIP web page <
Rio:
Resp. HOOTJose' was in my class, class 07. We were good friends. When
going thru training he was a BM1. Later went to Deep Sea Diving
school and from there to EOD school. Going to nite school he got a degree
from Univ Maryland. Got a commission. Was wounded in Nam working with
the spooks up in Danang. Got hit in the stomach with a an AK47.
Resp.
HOOT Andrews
I was a "FNG" to then LT. Jose Taylor in Vietnam in
1967. He came to the Hotel Carter in MyTho to visit us and that is where I
met him. He treated me and also the "Young Lion FNGs" as if we
were old lost teamates. I listened attentively to all the sea stories they
shared with us about their good old days in UDT. To us, even all the
"hairy seastories" are funny, so we had a lot of good laughs.
My immediate opinion of Jose Taylor was that I could get along with
him real good and that I could follow him anywhere anytime. I remember him
telling Lt. Bob "Mr Son" Peterson that he had gotten word from
Jake Rhinebolt that his platoon was doing great work and that he was proud
of the 7th.Jose, I will drink a cold beer for you with great pride that I
have rubbed elbows with you. May God have mercy on your soul and allow you
into heaven to rest in peace.
Amen.
Tu Amigo,
Erasmo "Doc" Riojas HMC USN Retired
email me at : docrio @ ev1.net
To: docrio@ev1.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:30 AM
Subject: About the death of "Jose" TaylorI sad and sorry to hear
about Jose Taylor's death. May he rest in peace. He was a good guy and
teamate. I guess we are all going slowly through the completion of our tour
of duty, ie: death. I look at death as a new adventure with a don't sweat
it attitude. Any foot prints you may have accidentally made, will be washed
away with the next wave. Life is loaned to you, live it, love it, for the
joy of what you love, and whom you love. Leave your ego, status, and
possessions hanging on the worlds quarter deck because you are going out
with what you came here with; hopefully it will be a positive memory to a
few. In the mean time if you don't use what you got you will lose what you
got.
Tu Amigo
Roy Boehm,
From: Richard Martin
To: Erasmo Riojas
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Jose Taylor RIP web page
I knew Jose Taylor!!!!!!
Richard "LEG" Martin HMC (SEAL) Retired
MY NOTE: Doc Martin has suffered a stroke that left some residual one
sided weakness and some brain irregularities therefore he has become A MAN
OF FEW words because of his stroke. Doc Riojas
From: Dee Clark
To: Erasmo Riojas
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: another photo of Jose Taylor that I got from Kiet I got
to know Jose when he arrived at ST2 and took over as Ordnance Officer. It
took all of two seconds to know that I'd follow him to hell and gone. He
was an inspiration and a guide who influenced my career in the navy. He
made it possible for me to go back to advisory duty and still retain my
SEAL quals which reflect the way I live even today.JOSE, I'll hoist a cool
one to memory of good times and good advice.
A.D. Clark
From: daug68@aol.com; Bill Daugherty
To: docrio@ev1.net
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: another photo of Jose Taylor that I got from Kiet
Doc that was a beautiful tribute to Jose Taylor. When Corney Leyden
and I lived together Jose would come over on a Saturday morning for coffee
or Kentucky Gentlemen which ever he wanted if any was left and visit.
----- Original Message -----
From: RJ THOMAS
To: docrio@ev1.net
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 1:38 AM
Subject: RE: Jose Taylor RIP web page
Hey Rio,
Jose was in the hospital at Yokosuka with Bos'n Campbell from ST-1 and me
in 69. I think he was recovering from getting shot in the belly. The whole
hospital staff was scared to death of him and Campbell because they would
get dressed and leave the ward and the go out in town when ever they
wanted, despite direct orders from the Docs they couldn't. He was the real
deal
.Outta here,
RJT ,
CDR(SEAL) USN Retired
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photo from Jose Taylor's collections
data: by MCPO Bob Stoner
Jose Taylor aka: Lloyd Favor Taylor
"A lawsuit filed by attorney Gene Odom, on
behalf of his client, Retired Navy SEAL Senior Chief Don Shipley has
revealed a concerning trend that is common among almost all "Phony
SEALs" that they have encountered."
BRANDON, FL, June 04, 2012 /24-7PressRelease/ -- A
lawsuit filed by personal injury attorney Gene Odom, on behalf of his
client, Retired Navy SEAL Senior Chief Don Shipley has revealed a
concerning trend that is common among almost all "Phony SEALs"
that they have encountered. That trend is a predatory disposition
towards those more naive and vulnerable.
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Mitchell Lee Croft
Meet John
For the last five years Veterans Day has found me at the Cupertino
Veterans Memorial. This year I ran into John Gulick who said that after
I was wounded he took over my .50 caliber machine gun. He said further
that he could only get it to work single fire. I was not surprised
because both the gun and I got blown up.
He said that he was not part of the Nha Be' detachment but that the Mike
boat was providing transport for him and a few other SEALs. We exchanged
information and I will see him again. I also ran into a PBR sailor who
was at Nha Be' the same time as I.
This is a small world and getting smaller.
A
SEAL before the glam and glitterWednesday, November
9, 2011 8:46 am
Vet recalls a ‘thrilling life'
Frank
Heinrich
Mike Baumgart
Amir Pishdad
Larry Lyons and Mike Thornton
TX Gov Perry and Marcus Luttrell
Doc CLark, Richard Marcinko, Rudy Boesch
Fred Miller & Frank Moncrief
J.R.Schooley
Rod D. Sirois
Deavereau "Bull" Knox ST-2
It is with great sadness that the UDT-SEAL Association informs the membership on the passing of MMCM Devereaux "Bull" Knox, USN-(Ret.) SEAL, Class 19 Passed away on May 20th, 2010.
MMCM Devereaux "Bull" Chester Knox, 72, passed away Thursday, May 20, 2010. Born in Guilford, Conn., he was a resident of Hampton Roads for more than 51 years. "Bull" retired as a Navy SEAL in 1988 after 30 years of service to our country. "Bull" was first assigned with UDT 21 and later served several tours of duty in Vietnam with SEAL Team 2
ST-2 Men with Green Faces
SEALs at War
Joseph S Shreckhise
Lisa & Robert Mc Daniels
SPencer Dry
Colton 10 y.o. & SEALs
Rudy Bosesch
Roger GUerra
William Templet
Pete Wikul "Bull Frog"
Admiral Olson
Nicholas
Bickle
Adm McRaven Eric T. Olson Jeff Lucas
Don
Shipley: http://military-fitness.military.com/tag/buds
Richard "Mack" Machowicz
LT: Roger Cook & ??
Bill "Fat Rat" Sutherland
Mark De Lisle
"Matto"
Chief Storekeeper (SEAL) http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/w/mwagner32/
Go to this link for the full
story.
from Stew
Smith:
&
LIFE MAGAZINE PICTURES LINK
Japanese Weapons UDT-SEAL
Adam
Lee Brown
Mark
Allen
Andrew Bissett =Link
Force Master Chief, Naval Special Warfare Command
FORCE MASTER CHIEF STEVEN D. STUDDARD, US NAVY
Michael Jaco
Michael Jaco served as a Navy SEAL
for twenty-four years before becoming an
independent security contractor. During his service he achieved what many others
previously thought to be impossible or unattainable. He retired in December 2002
as a Navy "Chief" and started his own training organization which
educates participants in tactical awareness skills. Born in Columbia, South
Carolina, he now lives in Elgin with his wife and children.
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in FL
Decorated Little Creek-based SEAL dies in Afghanistan
CollinThomas
KIA in
Afganistan
By Cindy Clayton
The Virginian-Pilot
© August 20, 2010
TOP STORIES:
1.
Navy SEAL From Morehead, Ky., Dies In Combat In Afghanistan
LOUISVILLE - Chief Petty Officer Collin Trent Thomas was a quiet
and well-liked student when he was growing up in Morehead, Ky., and always
had a clear view of his life after graduating. “He was serious toward
life even when he was young in high school,” said Penny Alderman, the
assistant principal of Rowan County High School and a friend of Thomas’
family. “He was thinking of his future and his future was always the
military.”
Jacob
"Jake" Daniel BANTA, HTFN
I wish i knew this Chief's name
Thank you for these unforgotten stories of Vietnam war end on April 30, 1975.
I was on board of the HQ. 502 (LST 502) at the ocean mouth Cap Vung Tau to waiting for a convoy of evacuation by US. government at that time.
There were many birds as OV-10, L19, helicopters flew out over our ship. Finally, there was one helicopter tried to make a low flying to let one man jump out of it. So the first man was out then floated toward the port of our HQ.502. Someone on that ship threw a lifebuoy down right to him, he got it then floating back into the river by the wind has changed after the sun was risen.
Unfortunate, the current was so strong and make me harder to get back the ship with him. I did decide to stay with him whatever will be happened. While we were struggled in the water then the second man as a pilot bailed out... However he be bounced back up by the high waves then disappeared in deep blue of the sea.
Back to our ship, the commander had ordered the engines restarted. We both got back to the ship with thousands voices cheered for us.
It was my last rescue without "Military order" on the morning of April 30-1975.
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm
Best Regards,
Kiet Nguyen, LDNN
Frank
Thornton
Liên
Đoàn Người Nhái (LDNN); Training Camp in CamRanhBay 'nam
Dai Wee Kuhn and Chief Riojas
C.O. of the LDNNs, TuTa Hiep
TuTa Hiep and Friends in the USA
To:
docrio45 [at] gmail . com
Sent: Sunday, July 25,
2010
Subject: Part of my LDNN collection....
Thanks Doc,
I met Trinh Hoa Hiep in the 90's and had
the pleasure of
sitting down withhim at his home not far from where I live in L.A.
The last time I spoke
with him was to get the correct definition of the "D" in LDNN, Doi was "team" which was used
until about 1970 then it was Doan, which means "group", when EOD, pier security, police and
salvage divers were all under the LDNN umbrella.
I sent a note to the UDT/SEAL Assoc, which
I am an assoc. member, about the death of Mr. Hiep but it never made it into the Blast. I have
pics and a diary of a LDNN advisor at Solid Anchor and Dong Tam and other pics of advisors
at Hoi An, some pics came from Ace Sarich, some from Terry Sullivan, both Team 2.
I've also
met Ryan McCombie years ago and I got some paperwork from an advisor name Mike Slattery,
he had a letter the Tommy Norris not long before Tom got wounded.
I collect everything I
can get my hands on relating to LDNN's and their advisors.
I also have pics of LDNNs
training in the US on the East Coast.
Mike Rush
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Gary Smith and Doc Riojas
LDNN SEAL Instructors:
Lt to Rt: Doc Marshall, Willis, Doc Rio,
DaiWee Kuhn, "french"
Gary Smith
Smitty retired as an MCPO and wrote
three books about Navy SEALs
He came home to Texas and
became a Texas Ranger.
Death In the Jungle
USA SEAL Instructor Hootch CamRanhBay Vietnam
Which one is Doc Riojas? LDNN Class
LDNN open air classroom
LDNN instructor Quan
Qua and Thang
LDNN practicing Karate
LDNNs on IBS
Casting from Huey Helicopter
LDNN patroling class by CPO Willis
Ba and Willis
BMC Willits
VN SEAL Sign painted by LDNN Trainees
Doc Riojas visiting a Camh Ranh Bay Villiage
Navy Journalist getting story for the
records. LDNN Camp CamRanhBay 'Nam 1970
1967,
Mike Boat, MyTho RVN: LDNNs
LDNN Thuy
I have noticed the guy from LDNN named Thang who was assigned
in Nam Can Team, which Darryl Young wrote about his turned
coat. (Page:319 - 320 of SEALs,
UDT, Frogmen: Men Under Pressure) I have met Darryl Young from my home a few years
before his death.
I have someone who knew him and he is still living somewhere
in Go Cong near Saigon Capital. He became a high ranking
officer after Vietnam fall and working for the bastard
Commies.
You remember Thang is never interested on me and of course I
am not the one wanted to talk or see him too.
Best regards,
Kiet Nguye
7th Plt. ST-2 MyTho
Than, LDNN SeaFLoat CaMau 'Nam
Helicopter
Casting
Qua
and DocRio
LDNN
InstructorLuong Linh
"Frenchy"
Boisivertte UDT
Instructor
Nguyen Van Kiet
LDNN
Vietnam
War Bibliography Navy SEALs and UDTs
Picture
taken at the FIRST LDNN reunion in Houston TX.
Lt to Rt: Phan
Tan Hung,Capt.Larry Bailey USN (Ret), Kiet Nguyen
LDNN Patches and Insignias
Ba & CPO Willis of ST-1 Instructors at LDNN Camp CamRanhBay 'nam
LDNN
Inst. Qua and Navy journalist.jpg
I have noticed the guy from LDNN named Thang who was assigned in Nam Can
Team, which Darryl Young wrote about his turned coat. (Page:319 -
320 of SEALs, UDT, Frogmen: Men Under Pressure) I have met Darryl Young
from my home a few years before his death.
I have someone who knew him and he is still living somewhere in Go Cong
near Saigon Capital. He became a high ranking officer after Vietnam fall
and working for the bastard Commies.
You remember Thang is never interested on me and of course I am not the
one wanted to talk or see him too.
Best regards,
Kiet Nguyen
2010/11/7 TTPhat <phat28_6@yahoo.com>
toktnguyen95 [at] yahoo DOT com
ccdocrio45 [at] gmail DOT com,
spikey1971 [at] aol DOT com
dateSun, Nov 7, 2010
subjectLDNN : VO VAN THANG ( He is a good man)
Toi la Phat o BH . SPVDH thuyen chuyen ve LDNN nam 1972 , dau nam 1974
co di chung voi anh ra dao Song Tu Tay (Truong Sa) .Trong toan co Tr/u
Xon , anh Tu Le,Banh, Lam Chau Tinh, Tu 'Ca Chinh' Kiet va Phat ( toan
cua minh ban min lam thuy dao va van chuyen vat lieu cho Cong Binh xay
cat doanh trai tren dao)
Thoi gian da lau ! chac anh Kiet khong con nho toi...
Nhan day, toi muon noi ve anh Thang (LDNN Vo Van Thang)
1 - Toi ve NN di toan o Nam Can , co nguoi da canh bao voi toi anh Thang
da tung" noi tuyen" nuong sach 2 toan SEAls My o My Tho , vi
the toi cung de y moi khi di chung voi anh ay
Toi o Nam Can gan 2 nam , lau dan ...toi va anh Thang tro nen than thiet
, toi hieu rat ro lap truong va chinh kien ve mot nguoi linh cua anh
Thang . Vi vay toi doan chac rang anh ay khong he " phan boi dong
doi va dong minh cua chung ta"
Trong thoi gian nay anh cung co tam su voi toi ve tham hoa cua
Xpray Platoon,cung di voi toan Xpray anh da thoat chet trong duong to ke
toc . Sau do ANQD moi anh len de lam ro ve viec nay , an ninh My cung
theo theo doi anh mot thoi gian , roi ho cung xac dinh anh Thang khong
biet truoc Vung + Toa do cong tac va chi biet sau khi hop roi cung toan
Xpray xuong seal boat ma thoi .(vi vay ho khong truy cuu)
Tieng don xau ve anh Thang tu do va con am vang den ngay nay .
* Khong ly do gi,mot nguoi bi tinh nghi la noi tuyen cho VC ma con nhon
nho trong hang ngu QD den thang 4/75 ???
2 - LDNN Vo Van Thang chua tung la si quan cao cap cua VC
Dieu nay duoc khang dinh nhu sau :
Tinh co toi lien lac voi Nguyen Tram (BH) va Tram co cho toi nhung so
dien thoai cua cac ban : Bach van Dong , Hoang Doan ,Liem va Le Thanh
Tat .
Cung hom do( khoang thang 8 nam2008) toi goi de tham Tat va Tat
cho toi biet "Thang Co" cung o Go Cong . Ho gap nhau trong luc
tap trung " Nguy quan" nam 75 (Tat que o mien Trung ve
que vo o Go Cong.)
Thang 10 nam 2008 toi va Hoang ngo Ky xuong Go Cong tham anh Thang va
Tat , moi biet ra ,vo chong anh da song cuoc doi co cuc trong
nhieu nam tai que nha ...Gio day Tat va anh Thang cung kha hon roi !
Le Thanh Tat biet ro anh Thang tu sau 75 den nay .
Anh Van (k3) dang o VN , hom 28/10/10 Phat va anh "Van Com "co
di tham anh Thang o GCong.
Day la nhung thong tin chinh xac va trung thuc ve anh Thang , toi hi
vong se duoc coi mo va sang to ve hanh vi cua anh ay .
Men chuc anh va gia dinh duoc an lanh hanh phuc .
TT Phat
Lt. Roy Dean Matthews, DOc Riojas, and LDNN Thuy
I have noticed the guy from LDNN named Thang who was assigned in
Nam Can Team, which Darryl Young wrote about his turned coat.
(Page:319 - 320 of SEALs, UDT, Frogmen: Men Under Pressure) I
have met Darryl Young from my home a few years before his death.
I have someone who knew him and he is still living somewhere in
Go Cong near Saigon Capital. He became a high ranking officer
after Vietnam fall and working for the bastard Commies.
You remember Thang is never interested on me and of course I am
not the one wanted to talk or see him too.
Best regards,
Kiet Nguyen, webmaster's note: Kiet was
awarded the Navy Cross for the rescue of BAT-21
LDNN Traitor,named Thang
From: Kiet Nguyen
To: spikey1971 [at] aol.com Cc: Doc Rio
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: LDNN Thang
Hi Mike,
Thanks, my family is doing well. Since April 30, 2005 I was
retired from my 19+1/2 years of Boeing company.
About Thang last name I am not sure, but I will find out later.
After he betrayed our comrades in SEALs. He was transferred to
other teams in center Vietnam (Cam Ranh + Da Nang).
8200 Westminster Blvd Westminster, CA 92683
Kiet Nguyen
http://daihoinkt.blogspot.com/2010/05/ban-tin-dai-hoi-8-nkt.html
--- On Wed, 5/26/10,
wrote:
From: spikey1971 [at] aol.com
To: ktnguyen95 [at] yahoo.com
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 6:21 AM
Subject: LDNN Thang ; what happened to that
Traitor?
Thank you, Spikey
-----Original Message-----
From:
spikey1971 [at] aol.com
To: ktnguyen95 [at] yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 4:21 pm
Subject: LDNN Thang
Hello Kiet, Nice to hear from you and I hope you and your family
are doing well. I saw something you postedon Doc Rio's website www.sealtwo.org
about an LDNN named Thang that was on Sea Float then went to
Xray platoon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kiet Nguyen <ktnguyen95 [at] yahoo.com>
To: Doc Rio docrio45 [at] gmail.com
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 1:50 pm
Subject: Re: write me here, but don't post this email on the
WWW, thanks
Hi Doc Rio & Mike,
It is a small world guys. Doc Rio was my trainer from LDNN Cam
Ranh Bay (1970) Mike Rush who I had a good opportunity met him
at the UDT-SEAL West coast reunion many years back while I have
accepted the Honorary Life member of UDT-SEAL Association.
HoohYaah!
Kiet Nguyen
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:46 AM,
<Spikey1971 [at] aol.com> wrote:
Thanks
Doc Rio,
www.sealtwo.org www.sealtwo.org
Erasmo "Doc" Riojas
"Man has to be man - by choice; he has to hold his life as
a value - by choice; he has to learn to sustain it - by choice;
he has to discover the values it requires and practice his
virtues - by his choice." Ayn Rand"
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To: Doc Rio Dec 23 2010
"Qua " is the intructor CRanh bay .
Skinny Thang is suspected of being a VC. Vietnamese and U.S.
security has cleared him and he was found to be innocent.
OK, Thắng không phải là VC. Tôi tin
rằng bạn. Cảm ơn bạn.
to Doc Rio,
Subj: There were NO LDNN captured and held as POW !
Many thanks to you. Ken Conboy wrote this article is interested,
but it has some errors. Example:
1) The LDNN had training in Cam Ranh bay was in May 1970 for class
# 4 then there after 4, 5 and 6. Of course you were there too. And
I was amongst of first group came to Cam Ranh to clean up and set
up the camp before class # 4 begun.
2) There
is no LDNN member have captured by Chinese navy. Indeed three KIA
and few guys had wounded.
Ken wrote:
When the Vietnam ceasefire went into effect in 1973 the SEALs
returned to LDNN Headquarters in Saigon. At the same time the CSS
was dissolved, with the Navy contingent given the option of
transferring to the LDNN.
In late December 1973 the government reiterated its territorial
claim to the Paracel Island chain off its coast and dispatched a
small garrison of militia to occupy the islands. By early January
1974 the Chinese, who also claimed the islands, had sent a naval
task force to retake.the Paracels. On 17 January 30 LDNN SEALs
were infiltrated on to the western shores of one of the major
islands to confront a Chinese landing party. The Chinese had
already departed; but two days later, after SEALs landed on a
nearby island, Chinese forces attacked with gunboats and naval
infantry. Two
SEALs members died and the rest were taken prisoner and later
repatriated.
https://www.sealtwo.org/LDNNvietnam.htm
LDNN CDR, Larry Bailey CAPT (SEAL) and Kiet
Nuyen at 1st LDNN reunion Houston TX
REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM NAVAL SPECIAL FORCES
In 1960 the South Vietnamese Navy proposed the creation of an
Underwater Demolitions Team to improve protection of ships, piers
and bridges. Later in the year a navy contingent was sent to
Taiwan for UDT training; the one officer and seven men who
completed the course became the cadre for a Lien Doi Nguoi Nhai (LDNN),
or Frogman Unit, formally established in July 1961. The LDNN, with
a proposed strength of 48 officers and men, was given the mission
of salvage, obstacle removal, pier protection and special
amphibious operations.
Soon after the creation of the LDNN a second unit was formed: Biet
Hai,or 'Special Sea Force', paramilitary commandos under the
operational control of Diem's Presidential Liaison Office and
given responsibility for amphibious operations against North
Vietnam. US Navy SEAL (Sea, Air and Land) commando teams began
deploying to South Vietnam in February 1962 and initiated in March
a six month course for the first Biet Hai cadre in airborne,
reconnaissance and guerrilla warfare training. By October, 62 men
had graduated from the firstcycle. A planned second contingent was
denied funding.
In early 1964 the LDNN, numbering only one officer and 41 men,
began special operations against VC seabome infiltration attempts.
Six Communist junks were destroyed by the LDNN at Ilo Ilo Island
in January during Operation 'Sea Dog'. During the following month
the LDNN began to be used against North Vietnamese targets as part
of Operation Plan 34A, a covert action program designed to
pressure the Ha Noi regime.
In February a team unsuccessfully attempted to sabotage a North
Vietnamese ferry on Cape Ron and Swatow patrol craft at Quang Khe.
Missions to destroy the Route I bridges below the 18th Parallel
were twice aborted. In March most of the LDNN was transferred to
Da Nang and colocated with the remaining Biet Hai commandos.
During May North Vietnam operations resumed by LDNN teams working
with newly trained Biet Hai boat crews. On 27 May they scored
their first success with the capture of a North Vietnamese junk.
On 30 June a team landed on the North Vietnamese coast near a
reservoir pump house. Ile team was discovered and a hand to hand
fight ensued; two LDNN commandos lost their lives and three 57mm
recoiless rifles were abandoned, but 22 North Vietnamese were
killed and the pump house was destroyed.
In July a second class of 60 LDNN candidates was selected and
began training in Nha Trang during September. Training lasted 16
weeks, and included a 'Hell Week' in which students were required
to paddle a boat 115 miles, run 75 miles, carry a boat for 21
miles and swim 10 miles. During the training cycle team members
salvaged a sunken landing craft at Nha Trang and a downed aircraft
in Binh Duong Province. Thirty-three men completed the course in
January 1965 and were based at Vung Tau under the direct control
of the Vietnamese Deputy Chief of Naval Operations (Operations).
In 1965 the LDNN was given responsibility for amphibious special
operations in South Vietnam. Maritime operations against North
Vietnam were given exclusively to the Da Nang based Biet
Haicommandos and Hai Tuanboat crews, both incorporated into the
new seaborne component of the STD, the So Phong Ve Duyen Hai
(Coastal Security Service or CSS). The CSS, a joint services unit,
was headed by an Army lieutenant colonel until 1966, then by a
Navy commander. CSS missions focused almost entirely on short
duration sabotage operations lasting one night, and had a high
success rate. The CSS relied heavily on special operations teams
temporarily seconded from other services. Teams on loan from the
Vietnamese Navy considered most effective, were codenamed 'Vega'.
Other teams came from the Vietnamese Marine Corps ('Romulus') and
Army ('Nimbus'). The CSS also controlled 40 civilian agents
('Cumulus') until the mid 1960s. Unofficialy, the term Biet Hai
was used for all CSS forces, regardless of original service
affiliation. CSS training was conducted at Da Nang under the
auspices of US Navy SEAL, US Marine, and Vietnamese advisors.
Further support was provided by the CSS's Da Nang based US
counterpart, the Naval Advisory Detachment, a component of MACVSOG.
By the mid 1960s US Navy SEAL teams were being rotated regularly
through South Vietnam on combat tours. Specialists in raids,
amphibious reconnaissance and neutralization operations against
the VC infrastructure, the SEALs worked closely with the LDNN and
began qualifying Vietnamese personnel in basic SEAL tactics. In
November 1966 a small cadre of LDNN were brought to Subic Bay in
the Philippines for more intensive SEAL training.
In 1967 a third LDNN class numbering over 400 were selected for
SEAL training at Vung Tau. Only 27 students finished the one year
course and were kept as a separate Hai Kich ('Special Sea Unit,'
the Vietnamese term for SEAL) unit within the LDNN. Shortly after
their graduation the Communists launched the Tet Offensive most of
the LDNN SEALs were moved to Cam Ranh Bay, where a fourth LDNN
class began training during 1968. During the year the Vietnamese
SEALs operated closely with the US Navy SEALS. The LDNN SEAL Team
maintained its focus on operations within South Vietnam, although
some missions did extend into Cambodia. Some missions used
parachute infiltration.
LDNN after Tet
In 1971, in accordance with increased operational responsibilities
under the Vietnamization program, the LDNN was expanded to the
Lien Doan Nguoi Nhai (LDNN), or Frogman Group, comprising a SEAL
Team, Underwater Demolitions Team, Explosive Ordnance Disposal
Team and Boat Support Team. Headquarters remained in Saigon. For
the remainder of 1971 the SEALs operated in 12 18-man detachments
on neutralization operations and raids inside South Vietnam. SEAL
launch sites included Ho Anh, north of Da Nang, Hue and Tinh An.
During the 1972 Easter Offensive the SEALs were transferred to Hue
to conduct operations against NVA forces holding Quang Tri; after
Quang Tri was retaken some of the SEALs went to Quang Ngai to
resume VC neutralization operations. After US Navy SEAL advisors
were withdrawn in late 1972 the LDNN SEAL Team, now 200 strong,
took over training facilities at Cam Ranh Bay; training, however,
was cut in half, with only one fifth given airborne training. The
SEALs had been augmented by ten graduates out of 21 LDNN officer
candidates sent to the US for SEAL training in 1971.
When the Vietnam ceasefire went into effect in 1973 the SEALs
returned to LDNN Headquarters in Saigon. At the same time the CSS
was dissolved, with the Navy contingent given the option of
transferring to the LDNN.
In late December 1973 the government reiterated its territorial
claim to the Paracel Island chain off its coast and dispatched a
small garrison of militia to occupy the islands. By early January
1974 the Chinese, who also claimed the islands, had sent a naval
task force to retake.the Paracels. On 17 January 30 LDNN SEALs
were infiltrated on to the western shores of one of the major
islands to confront a Chinese landing party. The Chinese had
already departed; but two days later, after SEALs landed on a
nearby island, Chinese forces attacked with gunboats and naval
infantry. Two SEALs died and the rest were taken prisoner and
later repatriated.
During the final days of South Vietnam a 50 man SEAL detachment
was sent to Long An; the remainder were kept at LDNN Headquarters
in Saigon along with 200 new SEAL trainees. During the early
evening of 29 April all SEAL dependents boarded LDNN UDT boats and
left Saigon; a few hours later the SEALs departed the capital,
linked up with the UDT boats, and were picked up by the US 7th
Fleet in international waters.
By Ken Conboy Reference: http://ngothelinh.tripod.com/History.html
Vi?t Nam C?ng Hòa Muôn Nam Ever the Republic of Vietnam
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from: Kiet Nguyen < ktnguyen95 [at] yahoo
DOT com>
to: Erasmo Doc Riojas <docrio [at] sealtwo DOT org>
date: Thu, May 12, 2011
Congratulations to you and Bob Gardner for reunited after a long time of
Vietnam war. Cu Lao Dung or Dung island in Long Phu, Bac Lieu
which I was there on late of 1970.
Best wishes,
Kiet Nguyen
We
used this Sanpan also to chase VC Tax collectors. That is Chuck
Jessie, Tuan LDNN, and Erasmo "Doc" Riojas doing the maintenance
on it. One of the LDNN, or Minh, dressed as a civilian did the
driving. Roy Dean Matthews asked me in the year 2007 if I was ever
scared riding inside this sanpan. The gospel truth! I was
scared shitless. It was because we are in side that plywood
enclosure and cannot see what the heck is going on. Plywood is not
bulletproof !
The most notable fact is that 2.7 million Americans actually
served in the Vietnam war. In the last census nearly 14 million
Americans claimed they served in Vietnam. Four out of five are
lying.
For over 30 years I....like many Vietnam veterans....seldom
spoke of Vietnam , except with other veterans, when training
soldiers, and in public speeches. These past five years I have
joined the hundreds of thousands who believe it is high time the
truth be told about the Vietnam War and the people who served
there. It's time the American people learn that the United
States military did not lose the War, and that a surprisingly
high number of people who claim to have served there, in fact,
DID NOT. As Americans support the men and women involved in the
War on Terrorism, the mainstream media are once again working
tirelessly to undermine their efforts and force a psychological
loss or stalemate for the United States . We cannot stand by and
let the media do to today's warriors what they did to us 35
years ago. Below are some assembled facts most readers will find
interesting. It isn't a long read, but it will....I
guarantee....teach you some things you did not know about the
Vietnam War and those who served, fought, or died there.
--Capt. Marshal Hanson, U.S.N.R (Ret..) --Capt. Scott Beaton
Facts, Statistics, Fake Warrior Numbers, and Myths Dispelled:
9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the
official Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975.
2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam. Veterans
represented 9.7% of their generation.
240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War.
The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was
with the
509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named
for him.
58,148 were killed in Vietnam.
75,000 were severely disabled.
23,214 were 100% disabled.
5,283 lost limbs.
1,081 sustained multiple amputations.
Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21.
11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old.
Of those killed, 17,539 were married.
Average age of men killed: 23.1 years.
Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old.
The oldest man killed was 62 years old.
As of January 15, 2004, there are 1,875 Americans still
unaccounted for.
97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged.
91% of Vietnam Veterans say they are glad they served.
74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome.
Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same
non-vet age groups.
Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our
non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.
87% of Americans hold Vietnam Veterans in high esteem.
There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans
and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group (Source: Veterans
Administration Study)
Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half
of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.
85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian
life.
1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of
August, 1995 During Census count, the number of Americans
claiming to have served was 9,492,958.
As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the
surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is 1,002,511.
This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and
'00. That's 390 per day.
During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely
claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this
census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.
The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially
provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that
2,709,918 U.S.. Military personnel as having served in-country.
Corrections and confirmations to this error in the index
resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel
confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by
the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and
accessible 24/7/365).
Common Myths Dispelled:
#1. Myth: Common Belief is that most Vietnam veterans were
drafted.. Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were
volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were
drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were
volunteers.
#2. Myth: The media have reported that suicides among Vietnam
veterans range from 50,000 to 100,000 - 6 to 11 times the
non-Vietnam veteran population. Fact: Mortality studies show
that 9,000 is a better estimate. "The CDC Vietnam
Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during the
first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7
times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam
veterans. After that initial post-service period, Vietnam
veterans were no more likely to die from suicide than
non-Vietnam veterans. In fact, after the 5-year post-service
period, the rate of suicides is less in the Vietnam veterans'
group.
#3.Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of
blacks were killed in the Vietnam War. Fact: 86% of the men who
died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were
other races. Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley
Butler, in their recently published book "All That We Can
Be," said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used
like cannon fodder during Vietnam "and can report
definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted
to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia, a
figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S.
population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of
blacks in the Army at the close of the war."
#4 Myth: Common belief is that the war was fought largely by the
poor and uneducated. Fact: Servicemen who went to Vietnam from
well-to-do areas had a slightly elevated risk of dying because
they were more likely to be pilots or infantry officers. Vietnam
Veterans were the best educated forces our nation had ever sent
into combat. 79% had a high school education or better. Here are
statistics from the Combat Area Casualty File (CACF) as of
November 1993. The CACF is the basis for the Vietnam Veterans
Memorial (The Wall): Average age of 58,148 killed in Vietnam was
23.11 years. (Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database,
only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is
used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were
listed as missing in action). Deaths Average Age Total: 58,148,
23.11 years Enlisted: 50,274, 22.37 years Officers: 6,598, 28.43
years Warrants: 1,276, 24.73 years E1 525, 20.34 years
11B MOS: 18,465, 22.55 years.
#5 Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman
fighting in Vietnam was 19. Fact: Assuming KIAs accurately
represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an
infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a
myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an
average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World
War II was 26 years of age.
#6 Myth: The Common belief is that the domino theory was proved
false. Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN
(Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines
, Indonesia , Malaysia , Singapore , and Thailand stayed free of
Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam . The
Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America 's
commitment in Vietnam . Without that commitment, Communism would
have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of
Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world.
If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war
in Vietnam , they have a different opinion from the American
news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.
#7 Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was
not as intense as in World War II. Fact: The average infantryman
in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of
combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw
about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of
the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in
Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded
out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is
similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300
percent higher than in World War II....75,000 Vietnam veterans
are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000
missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were
American). The average time lapse between wounding to
hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than
one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24
hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility.
Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many
troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the
politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the
Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border).
#8 Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl
running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June
1972......shown a million times on American television....was
burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang. Fact: No American had
involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan
Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were
VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese
pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The
Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently
living in the United States . Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut,
who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo
took place on the second day of a three day battle between the
North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang
Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam ) who were
trying to force the NVA out of the village. Recent reports in
the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike
that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans
involved in any capacity. "We (Americans) had nothing to do
with controlling VNAF," according to Lieutenant General
(Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at
that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of
Kim Phuc's brothers were killed in this incident. They were
Kim's cousins not her brothers.
#9 Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam . Fact: The
American military was not defeated in Vietnam . The American
military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a
military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance.
General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the
University of California , Berkley a major military defeat for
the VC and NVA. FACT: THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN
VIETNAM , THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID. Read on........ The fall of
Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American
military left Vietnam . The last American troops departed in
their entirety 29 March 1973. FACT: How could we lose a war we
had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate.
The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973.
* It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of
U.S. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South
Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification.
*The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon
consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military,
NOT American military running for their lives.
*There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia
(primarily Cambodia ) the first two years after the fall of
Saigon in 1975 then there were during the ten years the U.S. was
involved in Vietnam .
*Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations
and torture visited upon Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians
goes mainly to the American media and their undying
support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the
United States .
*As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and
misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an
overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided
defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the
truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the
Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces.
General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is
considered by some as ranking with Wellington , Grant, Lee and
MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet
Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all
fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and
the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements
in South Vietnam . The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in
the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only
one front and that was the News front and the political arena.
This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy
becoming the perceived truth. However, inaccurately reported,
the News Media made the Tet Offensive famous. Please give all
credit and research to: Capt. Marshal Hanson, U.S.N..R (Ret.)
and Capt. Scott Beaton.
Frank
Toms
Marcus "Doc" Luttrell
Desert
Training
Bravo SEAL PLatoon 1999 -2000
John
Kerry
Capt. Larry Bailey
Rod
Dellwyn Sirois
Tom Blais and SEAL gang
Jesse Ventura
Frank
Thornton & buddies
Capt.
Bucklew
Bob
Kerry
Tom Blais
Before a Raid
UDT-SEAL
Assn Presidents
Warta
Boesch
Tipton
Lt
to Rt: Tocci, ?
, Jack Lynch,
? , ?
, ?
Lt. to Rt.: ? , Tocci, Jack Lynch, ?, ?, ?, ?, John
Kirby , ?, ?Billy
Burbank and Girl Friend Billie
Reunion
Picture Collage from the BLAST
Brumuller and ??
Gene Cahill
Fly
Fallon and ??
Jack
Lynch & Rudy Boesch
Joe Silva and ??
Doc Lambert and Tom Hawkins
Brad
Lynch & Gene Cahill
Lt.
to Rt: Gordie Ablitt, Roy Boehm, Brett Lyhnch, Rudy Boesch, Harry
Humphries
Marge Boesch
Rudy BoeschMike
Michael Boynton
Our
Hometowns: Mike Boynton Irving TX, Doc Riojas , Laredo TX.
Old
Frogmen at Reunion, Spiegel (hand in pocket)
Rudy
Boesch with
Buddies
Bob "Eagle" Gallagher
Jim "Pathes" Watson
SEALs at Reunion
Tom
McCutchan
"Coming
Full Circle"
by former Navy SEAL David
Morris "PTSD
is an anxiety disorder. Morris has a severe case. He is almost always nervous.
He cries frequently."
Read more: http://www.islandpacket.com/2010/07/29/1320943/vietnam-traumas-still-haunt-ex.html#ixzz0vEJ5nGQL
Thomas
Mc Cutchan on MK VIII SEAL boat
??, Vicki & and Tom McCutchan
For what it's worth, loved reading through your website. First time I'd ever seen it. It's a real testament to the true nature of the teams: past,
present and future. Thanks for keeping the legacy alive, and thanks for everything you and your generation did-and continue to do - to build
and maintain the reputation and legacy.
No question, this generation of team guys benefits greatly from y'alls efforts, on and off the battlefield..
Chamberlain, F/A-18 Superhornet Pilot;
Yamaji, EA-6B Prowler ECMO.
Stacey
Virgin
Eugene Fraley KIA 'nam
Erasmo
"Doc" Riojas visiting Blackwater in N.C.
lt to rt: Sam Cichon, and other
class members. Sam is the oldest man to graduate from UDT
training on the East Coast. Note the second man got his pot worn out on
top, you KNOW that he was holding his end of the IBS.
Chris
Kinney
SamWitwicky Harry Humphries
Left:
Thomas L. Brown II & Mitchell Hall being awarded the Silver Star
Adam Lee Brown
names
??, ??
Larry
Bailey
Mark Mac Donald
Linny Horst
Front
Row: Lt to Rt:
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, Dan Potts
Scott Taylor
SEALs
accused of Prisoner Abuse
Erasmo "Doc" Riojas
Jerry Todd and Pittman
Jerry Todd and Pittman
UDT 21 Welcome USMC WWII
Tom
Hawkins and Jack Lynch from Kerry Ruth
Jack Lynch from Kerry Ruth
Big
Ron Rogers &Jack Lynch ST-2 Shooting at A.P. Hill Photos from
Denny Johnson
Eddie
Leisure
UDT ONE 1950
UDT-21
WWII PLatoon
UDT-1
www.usmiloitaryknives.com
The
UWSS Key West FL put through a class of astronauts in 1966, SCUBA.
Reviving this 2008 discussion, as I have heard from a member of the UDT team with the identities of two of the men in the above photo. LTJG Norm Ott (facing picture on far left with knife) and center in the back row, LTJG Fred Cook. Both men have since passed away.
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UDT 21 USS Bangor
Jack Lynch
Mike Boynton
Tim Bradley
Stan Janeka,
Harry Constance
Hoot
Scott Helvenston Search SEALTWO.ORG Pages
Doc Riojas, if you want to publish it on your website, here’s a humorous
trailer for you of my next book. IF not, enjoy the read.... Later, Carl
Howdy men, I hope everybody is impatiently awaiting the arrival of the third
installment in The Indomitable Patriot series. The book takes us back to 1943
and the submarine USS Great White (SS-299), commanded by LCDR Marcus Spencer.
You will recall the Great White and Captain Spencer from the first book,
FERTIG, along with Evelyn “Pinky” Pinkert and LCDR (detailed OSS) David
Meyers from both FERTIG and book two, DEAN. The Great White is at Mare Island
for overhaul and installation of some OSS communications gear. After attending
meetings at OSS headquarters, Spencer, Meyers and Pinky drive the the OSS
training academy, the former Congressional County Club. All right, here’s a
short, humorous trailer from book three....
The meeting continued for a couple more hours before breaking. Meyers, Captain
Spencer and Pinky drove to the Country Club to spend the night with Pinky in
the guesthouse. The following morning they would fly to Fort Monmouth in
Pinky’s Staggerwing Beechcraft.
~~~ ~~~
“It never fails to amaze me, whenever I come down here,” Meyers said as
they parked in front of the administration building. “I’ll never forget
the first two weeks of the academy when Pinky shared a bunk in a dormitory
with twenty-three other men.”
“That’s all right, Mister Meyers,” Pinky said, ice in her voice. “We
can save that story for another time!”
“Now my interest is peaked,” Spencer replied.
“Later, sir,” Pinky replied as she deeply blushed. “Only after a martini
will I be able to tell that story.”
“My humble command,” Pinky said when Meyers and Spencer stopped and stared
at the barbed-wire encased Quonset huts. “Come inside administration for a
moment and I will introduce you to Colonel Godfrey, our administrator. Not
even the Colonel has clearance to enter the barbed wire. After meeting the
Colonel, David and I will give you a tour of the facility.”
As they drove around the complex, David and Pinky explained the training
program for OSS Special Agents. They were parked at one of the five-hundred
yard ranges when Spencer asked, “You went through all this firearms
training, Pinky?”
“Captain Spencer,” Meyers answered, “Pinky is a distinguished master
with a rifle. She can outshoot me.”
Spencer glanced at Pinky. “My COB, or Chief Of the Boat on the Great White
is a thin, wiry fellow. Almost soft-spoken, but get under his skin or fail to
obey a command, he instantly becomes a grizzly bear. I suspect, ma’am, the
two of you are not that different.”
Pinky started up and then abruptly stopped their Jeep. “You see that man out
there, Captain, the one leading that squad. He will be going to Tinian with
you. His name is Carlos Hathcock, Senior. He can outshoot all of our firearms
instructors. He can hit bull’s eyes at a thousand yards with an iron-sighted
rifle.”
Spencer slowly shook his head as Pinky started up again. “Such young men we
produce, to go in harm’s way,” he muttered under his breath.
~~~ ~~~
Captain Spencer, David and I ate in the cadet’s mess. The food service was
very good for cafeteria-style service. Afterward, we adjourned to the
recreation room where I fixed martinis for the three of us. David brought up
the subject of the academy again… to my great embarrassment.
“You delight in forcing me to tell that story, don’t you, Mister
Meyers,” Pinky said as she broke out in laughter.
“Marcus (Spencer had told them to dispense with the Captain Spencer
routine), my family owns this place, the former Congressional Country Club. I
lived in the guesthouse when they leased it to the OSS for the duration of the
war, under the condition I continue residing in the guesthouse. My uncles
didn’t want me moving back to Chicago where I would be too close to them.
The OSS hired me, and I applied for special agent training. David and I were
in the first academy class.”
“For the first two weeks of physical, as well as stress training, everybody
lived in open barracks. If you survived that period, you moved into individual
rooms for the remainder of the training. Their theory, the enemy would neither
discriminate nor go easy on a female, so they lumped everybody together.”
“Sunday afternoon, the day before the training officially began; I’m
arranging my uniforms and gear in my locker… in an open bay with
twenty-three other guys.”
Marcus began to chuckle and then laugh aloud. “Excuse me, Pinky, I’m
picturing you bunking in the crew quarters on a sub and being with eighty men
who have not bathed in a week or two. It gets pretty foul at times on a
boat!”
“We are all tending to our gear while our drill instructor marches up and
down the aisle, screaming ‘The enemy intends to kill you, pretty women as
quickly as big, tough men,’ and all that.”
“And then Gunny stops at my bunk. I come to attention. The rim of his Smokey
Bear hat a fraction of an inch from my forehead. ‘Pinkert, you get one
privilege,’ he screams… spittle landing all over my face. ‘There is one
stall in the head with a curtain. That stall is yours alone. In exchange for
that privilege, you shall not use the men’s urinal. Do you understand
that?’”
“Sir, yes sir,” I screamed in Gunny’s face, biting my tongue to keep
from laughing. Then Gunny screams, “Men, you will report immediately if you
catch Pinkert using your urinal. Do you understand that?”
“A chorus of ‘Sir, yes sir,’ rang throughout the barracks. By now I’m
about to explode with laughter.”
“It got worse when Gunny yelled at us about one shower for everybody,”
David interrupted. “I’ll save Pinky further embarrassment and leave that
to your imagination.”
“Pinky, water is in such short supply on a sub that bathing usually amounts
to a gallon of water, once a week if you’re lucky,” Marcus replied.
“There is an officer’s head on board, but it’s usually crammed full of
supplies for most of a patrol. Everybody uses one head in the after torpedo
room. That, too, becomes pretty foul after weeks at sea.”
Carl McLelland
THE INDOMITABLE PATRIOT Fertig, The Guerrilla General
his old age. His first few books were about the paranormal... he
likes to chase ghosts in his spare time. But his latest
endeavor; Wow! He has started a new series of books he calls Behind
the Lines. His first book, recently completed and
published is titled “THE INDOMITABLE PATRIOT: Fertig, the
Guerrilla General.” It’s a historically correct novel about
Wendell Fertig in the Philippines in World War II. Here’s
what the book looks like.
Cover Final :
May, 1942. General Wainwright has just surrendered the Philippines.
Wendell Fertig, a Corps of Engineers Lieutenant Colonel, refuses to
comply and flees into the mountains of Mindanao. Fertig is soon
joined by dozens of former Philippino Army scouts who encourage him
to form a guerrilla Army. Over the next few months Fertig is joined
by several other displaced American soldiers, one of whom builds a
small, makeshift transmitter and establishes contact with the Navy.
General MacArthur denounces Fertig, going on record claiming it’s
impossible for a guerrilla movement in the Philippines to succeed.
The O.S.S. decide to take a chance and covertly supplies Fertig by
submarine. Once he receives the tools to wage war, his achievements
become legendary. By the time MacArthur returns to the Philippines
in 1944 he is met on the beach at Leyte by a force of over twenty
thousand of Fertig’s guerrilla Army.
This fictional accounting is based upon the actual military records
and reports of one man’s impossible achievements against
overwhelming odds; against an enemy who outnumbered him a hundred to
one. Wendell Fertig, a civil engineer and untrained amateur in the
ways of war, defied the predictions of the experts and brought the
Japanese Army to its knees. Enjoy this first installment in the new
Behind The Lines series of combat thrillers based upon historical
records.
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The book is available from Amazon in either print or Kindle
versions, or by special order from almost any book retailer.
(He’s not Tom Clancy yet. They don’t stock his books but they
can order them). These links will take you to the Amazon listings.
If you look at the Kindle listing there is a Look Inside feature
that lets you read through the first chapter.
Print:
http://www.amazon.com/Indomitable-Patriot-Fertig-Guerrilla-General/dp/
1512025623/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431972445&sr=8-1&keywords=the+indomitable+patriot
Kindle:
http://www.amazon.com/Indomitable-
Patriot-Fertig-Guerrilla-General-ebook/dp/B00XUSX4RU/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1432050603&sr=
1-1&keywords=the+indomitable+patriot
The following is typical of the reviews
I’m receiving on the book:
Just finished your book and you get 4.0 marks from this old Navy
Seal. Really enjoyed and it adds to my hobby of WWII.
Spent 22 years of my 34 in and out of the PI. Have traveled every
island and was trained a marksman by RJ when we were
stationed at Team 2 during Vietnam. Still a very good friend I keep
in contact with. Going to recommend it to my friends,
at least the ones that can read.